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#326 2012-02-08 20:05:18

pearl
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Re: why do you believe krishnamurti

bruce sean wrote:

pearl wrote:

bruce sean wrote:

People are using their energies already in millions of twisted ways.

And don't forget you are one of those who seems oblivious to the twisted nature of his messages.

Either I'm oblivious to what I'm writing, or you keep misunderstanding them: one of the two.

Good atleast you consider that you could be totally oblivious.  You can start from there.

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#327 2012-02-08 20:07:54

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Re: why do you believe krishnamurti

Bruce, in reply:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dOtF0EN_ … re=related

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#328 2012-02-08 20:08:55

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Re: why do you believe krishnamurti

Hi pearl...imagination can be fun or useful at times.

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#329 2012-02-08 22:00:13

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Re: why do you believe krishnamurti

pearl wrote:

bruce sean wrote:

pearl wrote:


And don't forget you are one of those who seems oblivious to the twisted nature of his messages.

Either I'm oblivious to what I'm writing, or you keep misunderstanding them: one of the two.

Good atleast you consider that you could be totally oblivious.  You can start from there.

I don't exclude anything, there's no excluder.

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#330 2012-02-08 22:01:40

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Re: why do you believe krishnamurti

beans wrote:

Bruce, in reply:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dOtF0EN_ … re=related

Yes, this is what most people do.

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#331 2012-02-08 23:21:34

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Re: why do you believe krishnamurti

joe wrote:

no, eden, she would not like to find out...and that is just what happens.

Of course joe. I've been aware of that for a while now. I haven't the slightest resistance to her closure.  There is no shortage of open hearts in this world--far from it. In fact I would say there is an endless supply.

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#332 2012-02-08 23:36:25

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Re: why do you believe krishnamurti

bruce sean wrote:

People are using their energies already in millions of twisted ways.

You mean like crossword puzzles and chess?

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#333 2012-02-08 23:37:43

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Re: why do you believe krishnamurti

I don't do puzzles, and chess has a practical reason for me.

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#334 2012-02-08 23:41:00

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Re: why do you believe krishnamurti

Twister anyone?

http://www.gadgetking.com.au/images/TwisterBeachTowelplayonbeach.jpg

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#335 2012-02-08 23:42:45

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Re: why do you believe krishnamurti

Actually nevermind. Let's get practical....

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_0C8HEf8Lpb0/SJ9mt5inEGI/AAAAAAAACpo/rpghkOkZn-g/s400/m4.JPG

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#336 2012-02-08 23:42:51

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Re: why do you believe krishnamurti

'Practical' was meant differently.

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#337 2012-02-08 23:43:58

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Re: why do you believe krishnamurti

Eden wrote:

Actually nevermind. Let's get practical....

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_0C8HEf8Lpb0/S … 400/m4.JPG

No, not in that way either.

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#338 2012-02-08 23:44:39

Eden
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Re: why do you believe krishnamurti

bruce sean wrote:

I don't do puzzles, and chess has a practical reason for me.

I'm all ears.

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#339 2012-02-08 23:50:45

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Re: why do you believe krishnamurti

Oh, no, let's not get personal. It's not important: let's just say that I see chess as a stupid game, yet I'm playing it!

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#340 2012-02-09 00:34:45

Eden
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Re: why do you believe krishnamurti

bruce sean wrote:

My only concern is survival.

bruce sean wrote:

I don't do puzzles, and chess has a practical reason for me.

Eden wrote:

I'm all ears.

bruce sean wrote:

Oh, no, let's not get personal. It's not important: let's just say that I see chess as a stupid game, yet I'm playing it!

And there you have it...the mind of bruce in a nutshell.

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#341 2012-02-09 09:03:02

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Re: why do you believe krishnamurti

bruce sean wrote:

pearl wrote:

bruce sean wrote:


Either I'm oblivious to what I'm writing, or you keep misunderstanding them: one of the two.

Good atleast you consider that you could be totally oblivious.  You can start from there.

I don't exclude anything, there's no excluder.

?

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#342 2012-02-09 09:05:19

pearl
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Re: why do you believe krishnamurti

bruce sean wrote:

Oh, no, let's not get personal. It's not important: let's just say that I see chess as a stupid game, yet I'm playing it!

Indeed, you do many stupid things knowing how stupid.  Thus far you've only played games.

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#343 2012-02-09 09:12:34

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Re: why do you believe krishnamurti

Eden wrote:

joe wrote:

no, eden, she would not like to find out...and that is just what happens.

Of course joe. I've been aware of that for a while now. I haven't the slightest resistance to her closure.  There is no shortage of open hearts in this world--far from it. In fact I would say there is an endless supply.

I've been aware too that you're actually no better than these weak, wimpy minds of joes and bruces of the world, another interent troll who talks of nice beliefs like god and what have you. Now, you can sing and dance and make merry with the sheep.  It's where you belong, or fit well.  Goodbye.  I can't come down to where you are, it's something I've left far far behind and after a few moments of freedom you've fallen into it, the stream of consciousness.  Flow on...

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#344 2012-02-09 15:47:15

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Re: why do you believe krishnamurti

Hi pearl. I have no doubt that you can easily conjure up 500 more insults and labels to apply to me.  In fact is there any derogatory label or insult that doesn't apply to me? Seems like I am pretty much the full spectrum, yes?

As for me, I find it rather impossible to label you at all.  The only thing I can say about you at this moment is that my body feels your pure and radiant heart, and it also feels the shells covering it. Beyond that, there is nothing to add.

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#345 2012-02-09 16:36:11

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Re: why do you believe krishnamurti

What?  You think you can say and do anything and when someone as much points out the fallacy of it, you feel labeled, insulted?

As for feeling my heart, or mind you have not come close to it.  You don't have to, trust me.

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#346 2012-02-09 16:40:42

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Re: why do you believe krishnamurti

please, pearl and eden, could you consider to continue this quarrel privately ?
it can be an inquiry into the human condition to see writings like this but it's more of the same now..

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#347 2012-02-09 16:47:41

pearl
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Re: why do you believe krishnamurti

Let's see what she has to offer, "something new" from kirsten.

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#348 2012-02-09 17:07:06

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Re: why do you believe krishnamurti

so yeah, what is fruitful dialogue, and under what conditions does it open?

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#349 2012-02-09 17:11:59

kirsten
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Re: why do you believe krishnamurti

http://memearchive.net/memerial.net/3417/brain-fart.jpg

oops

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#350 2012-02-09 17:17:13

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Re: why do you believe krishnamurti

You have to have an orgasm of the heart,
then you will forget the brain fart...:-)

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