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#301 2012-02-08 16:59:52
- Eden
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Re: why do you believe krishnamurti
pearl wrote:
'pearl' or 'sam' don't exist as a part, but the whole...in other words there is no part, for the part has merged with the whole, as the river that has merged with the ocean....if you understand what I mean. It's also fine if you don't understand.
Since there are no parts, only the whole...who/what is it that you are calling a "creep, a f***** son of a bitch, a sick son of a creepy bastard, a shoddy little mind, a little boy", etc? Why are you calling yourself all these names?
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#302 2012-02-08 17:07:45
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Re: why do you believe krishnamurti
You think you're some god, huh?
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#303 2012-02-08 17:09:39
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Re: why do you believe krishnamurti
bruce sean wrote:
No, the message is NOT the source. The message can take various forms, while the messenger doesn't exist, but the source doesn't take any form, it is formless, and doesn't depend on the message.
Just more intellectual jibberish. You don't seem to have a clue why you are saying what you are saying.
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#304 2012-02-08 17:13:17
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It makes perfect sense, actually. Just not to you. Perhaps you should leave it.
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#305 2012-02-08 17:15:36
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Re: why do you believe krishnamurti
If it makes sense to you then you can keep it.
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#306 2012-02-08 17:16:47
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Dear Pearl,
Hi, how are you? How is your day going?
I am just loving listening to K over at youtube. I never get tired of him.
He is the most insightful man ever. Period....
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#307 2012-02-08 17:17:57
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Oh, and Pearl, did you see where I shared, wrote, how even K gets bored discussing the same stuff over and over. Very interesting, huh?
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#308 2012-02-08 17:27:45
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sds wrote:
Dear Pearl,
Hi, how are you? How is your day going?
I am just loving listening to K over at youtube. I never get tired of him.
He is the most insightful man ever. Period....
SDS, no words to describe this unprecedented day and talking with you now only makes it just perfect. T's a fabulous day and something wonderful happening here...that no words can capture....this exquisite, ecstatic energy filled our home and hearts all day.
You were also on my mind suddenly as though we were communing together even though there were no verbal words. An ecstatic urge welled up to reach you to let you know how truly special you are to me, how grateful I'm to have met you here, but I simply stayed with it. :-) Wanted to also send you a BIG hug!
Also could you post the video with pupul. It's the most humurous laugh coming from an adult and it's a delight. I used to laugh with him every time he laughed when he talked to people or in the dialogues with others. Incredible, really. Thanks for asking about my day.
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#309 2012-02-08 17:29:08
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Re: why do you believe krishnamurti
I prefer hanging out at the K Ning over this place. There is some thought provoking posts over there in my opinion.
I even met a fellow K person recently who lives near me through that forum. We had a nice talk, discussion, exchange about K for about an hour and a half.
It is interesting to meet fellow K people and hear how they understand the teachings and apply them in their lives.
And he was a most respectful person, and a decent fellow. Very rare to find among many interested in these teachings.
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#310 2012-02-08 17:29:10
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sds wrote:
Oh, and Pearl, did you see where I shared, wrote, how even K gets bored discussing the same stuff over and over. Very interesting, huh?
Yes, yes, totally had a great laugh reading that. Good one. :-)
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#311 2012-02-08 17:35:06
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Pearl, it is a nine part video. I have watched up to part 6. In part 5 or 6 if I remember, he chuckles and makes that comment, but it is a very slight chuckle, laugh, nothing too much.
Some parts of this video are not his best, but overall it has been worth me watching it. I always get something out of watching K.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=57NVbhMt6KM
As for this day, yes, this is a most new, unprecedented day, it is ever fresh, new, original, never to be had again.
Thank you for your thoughts, feelings, your heart, your communion. I feel the same and was thinking about you too. Thank you so much for sharing that communion with me.
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#312 2012-02-08 17:35:07
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sds wrote:
I prefer hanging out at the K Ning over this place. There is some thought provoking posts over there in my opinion.
I even met a fellow K person recently who lives near me through that forum. We had a nice talk, discussion, exchange about K for about an hour and a half.
It is interesting to meet fellow K people and hear how they understand the teachings and apply them in their lives.
And he was a most respectful person, and a decent fellow. Very rare to find among many interested in these teachings.
Wonderful SDS that you could talk to a good k person. I wish you many more wonderful talks together. I also have a friend here whom I met thru some K people, a very wonderful person and someone who I'm close freinds with. We sometimes talk over supper about everything, K, life, dilogue groups, people everything under the sun. One of my best friends if I can say so whom I and my son have known for many years now.
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#313 2012-02-08 17:38:00
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Re: why do you believe krishnamurti
Eden wrote:
pearl wrote:
'pearl' or 'sam' don't exist as a part, but the whole...in other words there is no part, for the part has merged with the whole, as the river that has merged with the ocean....if you understand what I mean. It's also fine if you don't understand.
Since there are no parts, only the whole...who/what is it that you are calling a "creep, a f***** son of a bitch, a sick son of a creepy bastard, a shoddy little mind, a little boy", etc? Why are you calling yourself all these names?
Why are you calling yourself all these names pearl? Would you like to find out? A simple "yes" or "no" will do.
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#314 2012-02-08 17:38:57
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Re: why do you believe krishnamurti
sds wrote:
Pearl, it is a nine part video. I have watched up to part 6. In part 5 or 6 if I remember, he chuckles and makes that comment, but it is a very slight chuckle, laugh, nothing too much.
Some parts of this video are not his best, but overall it has been worth me watching it. I always get something out of watching K.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=57NVbhMt6KM
As for this day, yes, this is a most new, unprecedented day, it is ever fresh, new, original, never to be had again.
Thank you for your thoughts, feelings, your heart, your communion. I feel the same and was thinking about you too. Thank you so much for sharing that communion with me.
Yes, yes, exactly those chuckles are what that made me laugh. Thankyou for sharing your thoughts, observations with me, for the love, friendship, communion. It's a most wonderful gift to meet people as you. Utterly grateful, SDS.
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#315 2012-02-08 17:39:22
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The interesting thing Pearl is we probably wont meet again, me and this K person.
We shared and discussed K as much as we could, and then we just parted and said goodbye.
There is no attachments and no need to meet up again. If we do, that is great, and if not, that is great too. We lived in the moment and explored and then went on with our lives....
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#316 2012-02-08 17:46:35
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Yes, yes, interesting indeed. Maybe the same with you and me too. Maybe tomorrow I would never hear you again and even if we din't, I won't miss you at all 'cos something so complete leaves nothing to be missed. But if we spoke again tomorrow, I know it would be totally new like we never met before...
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#317 2012-02-08 17:52:46
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Yes, yes, interesting indeed. Maybe the same with you and me too. Maybe tomorrow I would never hear you again and even if we din't, I won't miss you at all 'cos something so complete leaves nothing to be missed. But if we spoke again tomorrow, I know it would be totally new like we never met before...
Exactly, exactly. It took me a while to get this, to get to this place of non-attachment and living in the present, but it is the best place to live from.
I am signing off now but I truly loved communing with you today and sharing with you. Big hugs, and much love.....
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#319 2012-02-08 19:35:36
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Re: why do you believe krishnamurti
Looking at the pages of this thread just from today...wow, imagine how the world would change if some people used their energy in other ways.
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#320 2012-02-08 19:46:55
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You mean talking is useless?
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#321 2012-02-08 19:47:55
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People are using their energies already in millions of twisted ways.
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#322 2012-02-08 19:52:47
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Re: why do you believe krishnamurti
sds wrote:
pearl wrote:
Yes, yes, interesting indeed. Maybe the same with you and me too. Maybe tomorrow I would never hear you again and even if we din't, I won't miss you at all 'cos something so complete leaves nothing to be missed. But if we spoke again tomorrow, I know it would be totally new like we never met before...
Exactly, exactly. It took me a while to get this, to get to this place of non-attachment and living in the present, but it is the best place to live from.
I am signing off now but I truly loved communing with you today and sharing with you. Big hugs, and much love.....
Ditto here SDS. Much, much love to you and your's.
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#323 2012-02-08 19:54:13
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bruce sean wrote:
People are using their energies already in millions of twisted ways.
And don't forget you are one of those who seems oblivious to the twisted nature of his messages.
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#324 2012-02-08 19:56:03
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beans wrote:
Looking at the pages of this thread just from today...wow, imagine how the world would change if some people used their energy in other ways.
Keep imagining.
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#325 2012-02-08 20:02:39
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Re: why do you believe krishnamurti
pearl wrote:
bruce sean wrote:
People are using their energies already in millions of twisted ways.
And don't forget you are one of those who seems oblivious to the twisted nature of his messages.
Either I'm oblivious to what I'm writing, or you keep misunderstanding them: one of the two.
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