KFA - Krishnamurti Foundation of America

I think that Krishnamurti is very good at initially pointing out that there is an error in our thinking. He makes that clear and the freedom he is talking about seems throbbing in him and that is convincing too. But when it comes to the later parts it becomes impractical and lots of time is spent not really getting the message.

People critisize him but who really deconstructs him?

Last edited by Frenchtouch (2012-02-01 09:51:21)

I think some people find that what he said resonates with their own world view/experiences, and so on. There was a time when his words did help me go deeper. But also a time when I realized it was time to let that go too. If you don't let go, it becomes a bible.

night wrote:

I think some people find that what he said resonates with their own world view/experiences, and so on. There was a time when his words did help me go deeper. But also a time when I realized it was time to let that go too. If you don't let go, it becomes a bible.

Yes, to die every moment is to let go of everything. To let go of the false when it is seen, to let go of the true for the true is not of time and can’t be carried along, is to ride the incredible ride of not-knowing. The mind is aware of that intelligence. To believe in K from the very first book of his and to embark on one’s own journey through his pointing, one continues to discover life beyond.

also an excellent question Pearl

this is frighteningly fraught with flippant flubberdubbery but, in a nutshell, because the one thing anyone genuinely intent on the 'being' part of human needs to be afraid of is arrogance.

The arrogance of I know.
of I am right
of I am there already

so beguilingly convincing can be the little deviant devil within who cajoles and convinces that all is well with the 'me' and the 'mine'. So intent on its own gratification is the ego that it will literally blind a person to the being of another if that is what its satisfaction costs

how does this relate to your question?

if you do not revere those who have gone before (and to revere in this case may simply mean to listen, openly, so to know when someone is speaking firstly their own truth but also that which is true for us all) however sure you may be of your way you may be sure you will find a way to mislead yourself, and others

do we need yet more historical and current examples to see it?
so many asshole egoists talking from on high
so very few who know the way from below

Magnetic wrote:

because he makes me feel good as an individual, I CAN DO IT MYSELF, and that was the reason he/teachings has failed ME.

Really Mag? You used to advocate reading his biographies :-) (Even if you are writing as the multiversal ME.)

Last edited by beans (2012-02-01 19:18:45)

LMP wrote:

I think that Krishnamurti is very good at initially pointing out that there is an error in our thinking. He makes that clear and the freedom he is talking about seems throbbing in him and that is convincing too. But when it comes to the later parts it becomes impractical and lots of time is spent not really getting the message.

There is no later. One either understands the whole thing at once or they can forget it...or begin again afresh.

bruce sean wrote:

beans wrote:

why do you believe krishnamurti?

With many things I've read, I had come to a certain point where the falseness, confusion, or end point appeared in what is written. Not so with K.

The question remains, though: why do you believe? What is the need to believe?

Do you believe you have a bed to sleep in tonight?

Drop the word and all it carries with it and see for yourself.

bruce sean wrote:

That question, even at that level, is simple for me, but not for you-I'm saying it as a fact.

  But you were not talking at that level: you were talking about believing the words of another, in which you haven't found anything false. And that is what I asked: why believe at all in another's words' righteousness? Why not see for yourself?

Oh, it's simple for you, eh? Then why not answer it. Do you believe you have a bed to sleep in tonight?

Well I prefer Beanetic, but whatever....

farmer wrote:

Why do you believe in krishnamurti? I don't. He said never mind me I am just the speaker.I don't think he wanted anyone to believe in him.He simply wanted man to be free.Others have spoken with the same sentiments. Many have twisted words spoken of freedom to promote their egotistical center.

woah, slow down cowboy

you inserted an 'in'

the question didn't have it

two little letters
an 'i' and an 'n'

who's are they?
they're yours pardner

(damn it, I know you are from the US and that your moniker is farmer, damn stereotyped childhood westerns, how can I not see you as a grizzled, leathered, drawling, pronoun slinging, hunched over his battered hand of cards, hat like a piece of pizza dough, ruminating over whether to go all in, or out)

Magnetic wrote:

beans wrote:

Well I prefer Beanetic, but whatever....

mmmm very good beans, creative.......Beanetic, sounds like Bio energy, or more like Kinetic energy, like two minds synchronized through telepathy.........see its like the new I-ching.......

What, have you given up on astrology? Will you use it to predict peak oil, or the end of the tar sands fiasco?