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#1 2012-01-19 13:30:43

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I love you k forum

Love is the message

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#2 2012-01-19 13:33:57

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Ekanta wrote:

Love is the message

yes

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#3 2012-01-19 13:35:22

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Re: I love you k forum

awareness wrote:

Ekanta wrote:

Love is the message

yes

And awareness...so simple...

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#4 2012-01-19 13:44:37

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Re: I love you k forum

Ekanta wrote:

awareness wrote:

Ekanta wrote:

Love is the message

yes

And awareness...so simple...

yep, awareness in which there is love

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#5 2012-01-19 14:09:44

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Re: I love you k forum

Yes, and lets all keep pretending that we understand what it is that we are talking about.

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#6 2012-01-19 14:30:22

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Yes, and lets all keep pretending that we understand what it is that we are talking about.

yes, the old friend called death is waiting

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#7 2012-01-20 17:09:28

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Re: I love you k forum

Ekanta wrote:

Love is the message

If love is not a fact, then the message has failed.

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#8 2012-01-20 18:20:40

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Re: I love you k forum

bruce sean wrote:

Ekanta wrote:

Love is the message

If love is not a fact, then the message has failed.

No...love is the air....

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#9 2012-01-20 18:32:40

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That's romantic and all, but romance is not love. What is the fact of love?

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#10 2012-01-20 18:44:02

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Re: I love you k forum

It is you and me loving the messages and dring a cristal glass of compassion...

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#11 2012-01-21 00:29:20

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What do you mean by 'loving the messages'? Do you mean you like them(any messages here) very much?

  Like has an object; what about love?

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#12 2012-01-25 01:53:47

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bruce sean wrote:

That's romantic and all, but romance is not love. What is the fact of love?

Death.

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#13 2012-01-25 12:47:56

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Jayaraj wrote:

bruce sean wrote:

That's romantic and all, but romance is not love. What is the fact of love?

Death.

It has so many dimensions to discover about. Bruce wants the absolute. Sudden enlightenment. Freely given enlightenment. For me, it has enough every period to keep it going. And that is the damn beauty of it.

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#14 2012-01-25 13:59:28

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I don't want anything for myself. I'm only saying that the only way a change can happen is immediate-the death at the core is immediate. It may take time to heal the whole brain, to change its structures, and it does, but at the core the death is instantaneous.
Any other way it is not death.

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#15 2012-01-25 14:02:43

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I am confused, very much. And to say that has no sense to me.

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#16 2012-01-25 14:06:09

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Watch how the mind revolts against this total blindness. Can the totallly blind mind not dream that it can see, even a little bit?
  Can it stay with this confusion without looking for a way out?

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#17 2012-01-25 14:06:28

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bruce sean wrote:

I don't want anything for myself. I'm only saying that the only way a change can happen is immediate-the death at the core is immediate. It may take time to heal the whole brain, to change its structures, and it does, but at the core the death is instantaneous.
Any other way it is not death.

Now, all along my investigation, inquiry, learning, I keep discovering. Each discovery opens my perception to a new, different dimension of seeing that is not related to past understanding. I don't see instant death. How can it be when I am confused? Only in clarity that quiets it down, but is clarity limited at any stage?

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#18 2012-01-25 14:08:24

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Re: I love you k forum

bruce sean wrote:

Watch how the mind revolts against this total blindness. Can the totallly blind mind not dream that it can see, even a little bit?

I am not dreaming. Discovery. At the moment of complete not-knowing, at the end of understanding, insight opens up.

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#19 2012-01-25 14:09:52

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When one is confused, is that confusion to be cleared up bit by bit by bit? A little less confusion every day?

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#20 2012-01-25 14:10:30

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Re: I love you k forum

bruce sean wrote:

Watch how the mind revolts against this total blindness. Can the totallly blind mind not dream that it can see, even a little bit?
  Can it stay with this confusion without looking for a way out?

Yes, that means, I must know all my confusion, or else I don't know that it is immovable. And it is an immovable fact to me only when I have done all I can to move it , fail and realize.

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#21 2012-01-25 14:13:04

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bruce sean wrote:

When one is confused, is that confusion to be cleared up bit by bit by bit? A little less confusion every day?

No, understanding comes in a flash. But it requires a quiet mind to see.

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#22 2012-01-25 14:13:36

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Wait, I cannot do ANYTHING there is to do FIRST, before I realize it's futile. If I wait to try out anything possible I may need an infinite number of lifetimes.
  In fact, I have done that already, because man has tried everything from the beginning, and it lead nowhere, so I don't have to go through all that.

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#23 2012-01-25 14:15:19

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snguyen wrote:

bruce sean wrote:

When one is confused, is that confusion to be cleared up bit by bit by bit? A little less confusion every day?

No, understanding comes in a flash. But it requires a quiet mind to see.

It depends. You see, the confused mind, the conditioned mind, totally conditioned mind says it must be quiet in order to see. And that intent to see means it is NOT quiet.

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#24 2012-01-25 14:15:46

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Re: I love you k forum

bruce sean wrote:

When one is confused, is that confusion to be cleared up bit by bit by bit? A little less confusion every day?

You might misunderstand it for something else and the game continues until you see that it is not. It changes and acts like an illusion, a mirage. You drop it. But if you mind is not completely quiet, some illusion comes up again.

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#25 2012-01-25 14:17:29

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Re: I love you k forum

bruce sean wrote:

snguyen wrote:

bruce sean wrote:

When one is confused, is that confusion to be cleared up bit by bit by bit? A little less confusion every day?

No, understanding comes in a flash. But it requires a quiet mind to see.

It depends. You see, the confused mind, the conditioned mind, totally conditioned mind says it must be quiet in order to see. And that intent to see means it is NOT quiet.

So then there are works to be done, searched out, clarified...

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