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bruce sean · 2012-01-16 01:35:50

I'm not sure what you are trying to convey. I'm saying that methods have NO PLACE in the psychological domain, not according to me, or to Magnetic, but per se.

awareness · 2012-01-16 01:37:48

i only pointed out that i cannot understand what magnetic says with his AM ARE and so on

awareness · 2012-01-16 01:39:16

and why he put some words in big letter and some not. what wants he to demonstrate???

bruce sean · 2012-01-16 01:48:12

I don't know about him, but when I use capital letters I don't mean authority. I'm just writing the same way I would speak, stressing some words, perhaps emphatically, and not stressing some others.

awareness · 2012-01-16 01:53:32

bruce sean wrote:
I don't know about him, but when I use capital letters I don't mean authority. I'm just writing the same way I would speak, stressing some words, perhaps emphatically, and not stressing some others.

i have no problem to follow your words, but magnetics.

bruce sean · 2012-01-16 02:02:32

Just try to get the general drift, as I do.

awareness · 2012-01-16 09:29:27

Magnetic wrote:
awareness wrote:
and why he put some words in big letter and some not. what wants he to demonstrate???
My PLAYFULNESS........

your???

awareness · 2012-01-16 09:30:34

how long lives your playfullness?

awareness · 2012-01-16 10:49:24

Magnetic wrote:
awareness wrote:
how long lives your playfullness?
never thought of it as something that lives a part from me, so it never ends.

ok, i understand that it never ends. that means, that it is old, right?

awareness · 2012-01-16 10:50:31

ok, magnetic i will let you yours.

awareness · 2012-01-16 10:57:06

Magnetic wrote:
awareness wrote:
ok, magnetic i will let you yours.
good one awareness, but MINE does not depend on YOU, to be SO. Meaning i do not have to wait for everyone on this planet to become HAPPY, for ME to Experience BEING HAPPY.

yes, it depends on YOU. so good luck, be happy with that.

awareness · 2012-01-16 10:58:48

surely you was in a osho-forum

awareness · 2012-01-16 11:07:58

Magnetic wrote:
awareness wrote:
surely you was in a osho-forum
Not Only Osho, mmmm i remember been in many forums. The most stubborness i faced was in one about Bahai or something like that. Everything was explained with the Presents of the chosen one, it was quiet interesting to observe......

its ok magnetic, once upon a time we were all seekers

awareness · 2012-01-16 11:29:15

nice story, i heard about. there exist a lot. do you know the story from the fisher? who began with one fish, and remain with one fish in the sun?

awareness · 2012-01-16 11:48:51

a business man came along, and ask the fisher lying on the wall at the beach what he works. he told, that he was in the morning fishing on fish for the meal. so the businesman said that he could catch more fish. so the fisher asks what to do wit these fish. you can sell them, and can buy a boat. and then, you can catch more fishes. and then you can buy two boats and employ workers for fishing. and then you can buy a fish industry....and then ..and then.. and then, asks the fisher. "Then you can lie at the wall in the sun" said the businesman. "but i am lying on the wall" said the fisher:-))

awareness · 2012-01-16 12:03:01

awareness wrote:
Magnetic wrote:
awareness wrote:
how long lives your playfullness?
never thought of it as something that lives a part from me, so it never ends.
ok, i understand that it never ends. that means, that it is old, right?

you have not answered the question

awareness · 2012-01-16 12:14:48

Magnetic wrote:
awareness wrote:
awareness wrote:

ok, i understand that it never ends. that means, that it is old, right?
you have not answered the question
didnt saw when you wrote it, and i call myself an observer.....

Playfulness is my present experience, i dont uderstand how can it be old?

something which has no ending, is old. so what do you mean by observer?

awareness · 2012-01-16 12:24:00

Magnetic wrote:
awareness wrote:
Magnetic wrote:

didnt saw when you wrote it, and i call myself an observer.....

Playfulness is my present experience, i dont uderstand how can it be old?
something which has no ending, is old. so what do you mean by observer?
something that is not ending is old? how did you work that out.....

saying i call myself an observer could not have been so, if i missed your question post. See if its right in front of my nose and i did not see it, am I an Observer?

the observer, the part can see partly, it is the past, the old. seeing is not, when the observer see. observation, the observed without the observer is in which there is the presence.

awareness · 2012-01-16 12:25:50

seeing is in which there is observation.

awareness · 2012-01-16 12:28:27

only in observation is in which there is the ending of the observer, which is the observed

awareness · 2012-01-16 12:36:21

i dont know, i dont know how you use the words. firstly the my, the you as the observer, the experiencer, as time is old. this present is the present of time, which has a continuum from the past into the future, it remains old. so you have to ask yourself, if the self-knowledge accumulation had come to an end, if there is the constant transformation of the expierencer, of the observer, which is the expirienced, the observer, the playfullness

awareness · 2012-01-16 12:38:10

sorry, last sentence it must stand observed!!!!

awareness · 2012-01-16 12:39:38

awareness wrote:
sorry, last sentence it must stand observed!!!!

i mean last line

awareness · 2012-01-16 12:58:06

of course you can call that presence, which has no opposite, what you like to call, because the word is not the thing. so if you live with this timelessness, it is good for you, and we have not to discuss anymore about that. i only wanted to know if there is in which is no fear, no conflict. so this was only a conversation to put the words according to k. so nobody can criticize you, if you use other words, but you have to explain it, if you wants that somebody here understands you:-)

awareness · 2012-01-16 13:00:30

so you see, that this timelessness is the ending of time, the ending of the old, in which is the beginning of the other

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