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#1 2011-12-30 11:49:51

Frenchtouch
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Thandie Newton speech

http://www.ted.com/talks/thandie_newton … yself.html

I'm eager to see how bruce will trash this.

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#2 2011-12-30 11:52:54

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Re: Thandie Newton speech

sure that might be entertaining...what might be more educational though, is to see your own search for what might rile bruce...did you post this because you believe in it, did you post this because you thought it would fire bruce up, or perhaps both of these things blend into the motive?

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#3 2011-12-30 12:04:58

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Re: Thandie Newton speech

I think there is some truth and sincerity in this speech and I'm still trying to figure if bruce can see such a thing.

My first motive is to share something nice with everyone.

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#4 2011-12-30 12:10:45

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Re: Thandie Newton speech

ok..

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#5 2011-12-30 14:26:46

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Re: Thandie Newton speech

Frenchtouch wrote:

http://www.ted.com/talks/thandie_newton … yself.html

I'm eager to see how bruce will trash this.

Good guess. I...was going to not read it at all, but then I saw your other posts and thought 'why not'? I'm not sure I can open that link from what I'm using here, but let me try it. But I'm warning you: the other day, an old time friend has sent me a quote from Eckhart Tolle, and I've only read the first line, in which a 'mistake' was found-something untrue was said, and thus the whole thing became useless, and was dismissed.

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#6 2011-12-30 14:31:50

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Re: Thandie Newton speech

No, this computer needs a newer version of adobe. But the title says a lot: 'embracing myself'? The only way it can make sense is if it's presented like an option: the other or myself. But even then, you can't embrace the other, rather 'it' has to 'embrace' you.

  But embracing myself as it's usually meant sounds awful, terrible, even hidious.

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#7 2011-12-30 20:06:44

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Re: Thandie Newton speech

Ok, I've got a chance to look at it. Quite above your average actor/actress, although don't forget Tom Cruise's involvement with that silly Scientology.

  Of course, she doesn't know what she's talking about. Her self is all there to be seen.

  Let's see: she mentions a lack of self, yet talks immediately of progress as a person. Which measn self still-contradiction.
  She mentions seeing nobodies as somebodies, following her imagined transformation. Yet a nobody will always be a nobody. Behind her seeing somebodies in nobodies there lies the desire of the self to survive, to still be a somebody, even in a nobody, but be something, move, evolve.
  She mentions her 'complete'(sic) abandon in movement, in dancing, in acting. Meaning expression of that disfunctional self she keeps mentioning, as if that's what the world needed: to see the expression of a disfunctional self. As if 'complete' abandoning is ever complete.
  Also, in regards to acting in particular, she has the illusion that there are other selves which are healthy, and she has a chance of living those selves, only to go back to hers when acting is finished(sic)
  Brings up the idea of 'respecting myself'...(sic)!
  Has the belief that through practice she got to 'my essence'(sic).
 
  And in the end, waiting with false emotion for applause, and not living right away as a true nobody would. But what can you ask from an actress who has to justify her acting as being something worthy? A nobody who is actually a somebody, and who has to justify herself, therefore not being a nobody.

  The only thing right she mentioned was her explanation of race. Explanation which by itself, doesn't mean much: especially when surrounded by so many other illusions.

  This is a typical example of propaganda: propagating something without understanding any of it.

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#8 2011-12-30 20:15:32

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Re: Thandie Newton speech

You are  dissecting instead of having a grasp of the all thing.

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#9 2011-12-30 20:20:50

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Re: Thandie Newton speech

In order to make it clear to you. I had to back up what I said, and not mere presenting it like a silly impression.
You see, this is not dissecting. All this was noticed at once, the whole thing, in a second.

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