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#1 2011-12-26 01:10:55

bruce sean
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How many of you were actually alone on Christmas this year?

And how many are not making any plans for the New Year, and so how many will be alone then?

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#2 2011-12-26 01:43:31

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Re: How many of you were actually alone on Christmas this year?

alone is not a word of future. alone is not a superficial thing. so one standing in a group, at a party, can be also be alone. so alone is relationship. so planning is a word of future. the new year is time. if one, or better none stands alone, so what?

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#3 2011-12-26 06:42:39

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Re: How many of you were actually alone on Christmas this year?

You call living in Los Angeles with a TV tuned into CNN while chatting on the forum being "alone"?  Thanks for the laugh bruce ;-)

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#4 2011-12-26 18:12:55

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Re: How many of you were actually alone on Christmas this year?

Bruce, make that two.When one becomes two what will YOU do?

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#5 2011-12-26 18:24:50

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Re: How many of you were actually alone on Christmas this year?

A very good friend and I were speaking today on the awareness of alone. Aware of alone when all the superficial is seen for what it is.

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#6 2011-12-26 18:56:37

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Re: How many of you were actually alone on Christmas this year?

-- Love to have discussing-parties with intelligent people!

-- Who are they?

-- They all are living inside of me.


γνῶθι σεαυτόν (nosce te ipsum)

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#7 2011-12-26 21:21:22

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Re: How many of you were actually alone on Christmas this year?

bruce sean wrote:

And how many are not making any plans for the New Year, and so how many will be alone then?

What is it to be alone? If you are accustomed to anything are you alone then? If you are accustomed to something then there is planning for the future which is looking for a difference from what you are accustomed to.And to be accustomed is to have identity which is 'you'. So in all that there is no aloneness, because 'you' are present. Alone is when there is no identity.Then there is no other situation which is different because you are not getting used to anything.Therefore there is no planning a great time then.

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#8 2011-12-27 01:18:00

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Re: How many of you were actually alone on Christmas this year?

I understand that. I was asking who was actually alone on Christmas-Eve or Day. Not just talk about being secure and alone, and then run along and be with a group who otherwise might find you weird, or because you simply can't be alone when most people ARE SUPPOSSED to be together. So the image of 'I must be with somebody' makes you act, makes you seek others.

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#9 2011-12-27 01:20:39

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Re: How many of you were actually alone on Christmas this year?

Eden wrote:

You call living in Los Angeles with a TV tuned into CNN while chatting on the forum being "alone"?  Thanks for the laugh bruce ;-)

That was the night before Christmas Eve-I just happened to see it-I don't have a TV. I've even missed the last part, the conclusions.

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#10 2011-12-27 01:21:40

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Re: How many of you were actually alone on Christmas this year?

farmer wrote:

Bruce, make that two.When one becomes two what will YOU do?

What do you mean by 'one becomes two'?

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#11 2011-12-27 01:22:43

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Re: How many of you were actually alone on Christmas this year?

Magnetic wrote:

Q: Why are ghosts so bad at lying?

A: You can see right through them


hou hou hou, that was one my chrismas joke i found in the chrismas cracker, i wonder should i tell the joke about the butter? - No, am not going to tell you because you will spread it arround........

Very funny, indeed.

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#12 2011-12-27 01:24:42

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Re: How many of you were actually alone on Christmas this year?

awareness wrote:

alone is not a word of future. alone is not a superficial thing. so one standing in a group, at a party, can be also be alone. so alone is relationship. so planning is a word of future. the new year is time. if one, or better none stands alone, so what?

But why be with a group on a certain day, which is suppossed to mean something when it doesn't? Is that aloness?

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#13 2011-12-27 01:25:45

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Re: How many of you were actually alone on Christmas this year?

natura wrote:

-- Love to have discussing-parties with intelligent people!

-- Who are they?

-- They all are living inside of me.

?

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#14 2011-12-27 03:22:01

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Re: How many of you were actually alone on Christmas this year?

bruce sean wrote:

awareness wrote:

alone is not a word of future. alone is not a superficial thing. so one standing in a group, at a party, can be also be alone. so alone is relationship. so planning is a word of future. the new year is time. if one, or better none stands alone, so what?

But why be with a group on a certain day, which is suppossed to mean something when it doesn't? Is that aloness?

aloness has no dependency, opposite.

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#15 2011-12-27 17:06:02

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Re: How many of you were actually alone on Christmas this year?

Bruce #11,One = unity. Two= duality.There is no escape.Look at it.The entire non history.See the cries of attachment. The blind groping in the dark. Never ending struggle.Heart ripping separation.Alone and aware of no struggle,no attachment and no division.

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#16 2011-12-28 00:45:25

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Re: How many of you were actually alone on Christmas this year?

bruce sean wrote:

awareness wrote:

alone is not a word of future. alone is not a superficial thing. so one standing in a group, at a party, can be also be alone. so alone is relationship. so planning is a word of future. the new year is time. if one, or better none stands alone, so what?

But why be with a group on a certain day, which is suppossed to mean something when it doesn't? Is that aloness?

Well,if being with a group on a particular day has meaning to you then obviously you are not alone because you are then attached to some tradition, which means you are carrying something with you which denies aloneness.That which you hold onto makes you separate which makes you isolated not alone.So you are really escaping from your monotony.

However you may be really detached & therefore alone but may find yourself with some people who celebrate these things & just take part in some harmless things becuse of others. What do you say sir?

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#17 2011-12-28 04:15:17

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Re: How many of you were actually alone on Christmas this year?

I understand that. I've understood it the first time. But why be with others who celebrate an illusion? That was my question. Not if it's possible to happen to be with others, but still be alone. That's understood.
But why be there in the first place? Doesn't your very presence reinforce their illusion?

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#18 2011-12-28 04:16:19

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Re: How many of you were actually alone on Christmas this year?

farmer wrote:

Bruce #11,One = unity. Two= duality.There is no escape.Look at it.The entire non history.See the cries of attachment. The blind groping in the dark. Never ending struggle.Heart ripping separation.Alone and aware of no struggle,no attachment and no division.

But is two a reality? Or is it an invention of the mind?

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#19 2011-12-28 04:17:19

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Re: How many of you were actually alone on Christmas this year?

awareness wrote:

bruce sean wrote:

awareness wrote:

alone is not a word of future. alone is not a superficial thing. so one standing in a group, at a party, can be also be alone. so alone is relationship. so planning is a word of future. the new year is time. if one, or better none stands alone, so what?

But why be with a group on a certain day, which is suppossed to mean something when it doesn't? Is that aloness?

aloness has no dependency, opposite.

So no dependency. Then why not be alone? Were you alone on that day?

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#20 2011-12-28 04:26:23

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Re: How many of you were actually alone on Christmas this year?

bruce sean wrote:

awareness wrote:

bruce sean wrote:


But why be with a group on a certain day, which is suppossed to mean something when it doesn't? Is that aloness?

aloness has no dependency, opposite.

So no dependency. Then why not be alone? Were you alone on that day?

alone is there, where the me is not. can you remeber aloness? so there are a lot of things why to meet the family. oh yes, they will say, bruce, i did not know any bruce, yes it was my son, so what? yes, he died. ah, hm..but isnt he still alive. no its other, how to explain. no thanks, he is in a group which some krishnabrothers. you heard about. ah yes, the do sing that music: haare, haare krishna.........

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#21 2011-12-28 04:31:59

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Re: How many of you were actually alone on Christmas this year?

You didn't answer my question, though: were you alone, or were you not? Physically, I mean.

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#22 2011-12-28 04:33:55

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Re: How many of you were actually alone on Christmas this year?

bruce sean wrote:

You didn't answer my question, though: were you alone, or were you not? Physically, I mean.

yes, i was physically alone.

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#23 2011-12-28 04:34:58

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Re: How many of you were actually alone on Christmas this year?

Ok. Anyone else who was alone?

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#24 2011-12-28 07:29:31

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Re: How many of you were actually alone on Christmas this year?

My Christmas wish is that everyone will be physically alone on Christmas next year.  It's a long shot I know, but I'm putting it out there.

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#25 2011-12-28 13:55:17

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Re: How many of you were actually alone on Christmas this year?

I was surrounded by four generations; ages ranged from four years to eighty five years.

Of course, the oldest one sat, as per custom, at a separate table. This for the protection of the youngest, whom he pesters continually with philosophical questions.

Deke, short for Deacon, why do people stand on their head? Do you think we should stand for that. Whereupon the old fart stands up!

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