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Who am I to judge whether beauty is a reality for you or not? You say it is present, fine with me. I'm not going to prove it's an utopia. Not because I might be wrong, but because it's not for me to prove such a thing-rather, it is for you to discover it.
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the discovering is already present, in its fullness. No discovery needed.
Last edited by Eden (2011-12-21 18:15:50)
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Good for you. Now, how can I help you?
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bruce sean wrote:
Who am I to judge whether beauty is a reality for you or not? You say it is present, fine with me. I'm not going to prove it's an utopia. Not because I might be wrong, but because it's not for me to prove such a thing-rather, it is for you to discover it.
like wet discovered water
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Anything that might add to the discussion, tree?
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bruce sean wrote:
Good for you. Now, how can I help you?
No help is needed.
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That's why I asked: 'Why are you here'? To sharpen your language, you say. For what? Do you intend to show beauty to others, and you want to aquire the 'proper' language to do so?
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Language is a practical skill....like building a hut or climbing a coconut tree.
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This body needs coconuts, and huts, and symbols.
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And what will you try to communicate, when the skill will be sharp enough?
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bruce sean wrote:
And what will you try to communicate, when the skill will be sharp enough?
whatever is needed.
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Needed for what? Your own survival?
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the needs of the body.
Last edited by Eden (2011-12-21 18:50:26)
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The needs of your own body: that is personal.
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sometimes the body needs the juice of a coconut, sometimes it needs shelter.
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bruce sean wrote:
The needs of your own body: that is personal.
the urges and demands of the body are not personal. thirst is not personal.
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You are talking of your own body, not of other bodies. To not be concerned with others, is that beauty?
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you are attempting to make it all personal, out of desperation(the survival of your story depends on it)
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Eden wrote:
sometimes the body needs the juice of a coconut, sometimes it needs shelter.
Your body.
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Eden wrote:
you are attempting to make it all personal, out of desperation(the survival of your story depends on it)
I'm inquiring into it: is the concern with one's own body not personal? Me, me, me-the hell with the rest.
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bruce sean wrote:
You are talking of your own body, not of other bodies. To not be concerned with others, is that beauty?
the body has no concerns. concern is of the mind.
Does a nursing mother make sure all the other babies on the planet have milk from her breast first? Your logic is evidence of total desperation.
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bruce sean wrote:
Eden wrote:
sometimes the body needs the juice of a coconut, sometimes it needs shelter.
Your body.
Desperation.
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The body includes thought. To be blind to what's happening around one, isn't that still thought, enclosed in itself?
See how thought is hiding behind 'body needs' now.
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An animal may not be aware of what's happening in another jungle, on another continent. A human is, you are. And to be blind to that is the action of thought, unlike animals which know no better.
You're much clever than an animal, and that cleverness is blinding.
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bruce sean wrote:
Me, me, me-the hell with the rest.

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