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#1 2011-12-20 00:03:10
#2 2011-12-20 00:05:00
- bruce sean
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Re: wonderful world
The world is NOT wonderful.
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#3 2011-12-20 00:55:19
- Jayaraj
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Re: wonderful world
Quite. The earth may be quite wonderful if we begin to understand life. But we don't & have made a mess of things.
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#4 2011-12-20 12:08:19
- pearl
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Re: wonderful world
MF wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=auSo1MyWf8g
enjoy
Wonderful, indeed.
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#5 2011-12-20 12:30:27
- kirsten
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Re: wonderful world
thanks.. david attenborough brings wonder through the telly
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#6 2011-12-20 15:01:05
- BobD
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Re: wonderful world
bruce sean wrote:
The world is NOT wonderful.
Nor is it "not wonderful"
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#7 2011-12-20 16:44:07
- Eden
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Re: wonderful world
Emptyfull world.
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#8 2011-12-20 17:19:05
- snguyen
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Re: wonderful world
KFA forum is like a garbage place where you come to dump your lonely thoughts that beg for some recognition. But it is so. Life is emptiness. And that is the beauty of it.
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#9 2011-12-20 17:25:17
- MF
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Re: wonderful world
snguyen wrote:
KFA forum is like a garbage place where you come to dump your lonely thoughts that beg for some recognition. But it is so. Life is emptiness. And that is the beauty of it.
Life is meaningful and that is the beauty of it.
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#10 2011-12-20 17:48:43
- night
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Re: wonderful world
snguyen wrote:
KFA forum is like a garbage place where you come to dump your lonely thoughts that beg for some recognition. But it is so. Life is emptiness. And that is the beauty of it.
What's up snguyen, not in a good mood today?
Indeed, emptiness, which is just the same as fullness really. Matter looks quite full - this rock, this animal, this tree - but look close enough down to the scale of atoms and it is mostly empty. And yet, it appears full. This room is full of light rays crossing in all directions, constantly. And yet it is empty.
What a wonder that all this emptiness has taken form.
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#12 2011-12-20 19:02:47
- BobD
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Re: wonderful world
snguyen wrote:
KFA forum is like a garbage place where you come to dump your lonely thoughts that beg for some recognition. But it is so. Life is emptiness. And that is the beauty of it.
More like a pond to look at our reflection, that we would rather skip rocks off of, so as to see distortion
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#13 2011-12-20 19:31:05
- snguyen
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Magnetic wrote:
snguyen wrote:
KFA forum is like a garbage place where you come to dump your lonely thoughts that beg for some recognition. But it is so. Life is emptiness. And that is the beauty of it.
have you paid your garbage tax before you dump in here? read the K polices and the agreement you accept when joining. You cant unload here without paying the tax. Sense 2009 empty checks are not accepted any longer, emptiness is not valued.......
You are weird that you don’t speak your own language.
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#14 2011-12-20 19:32:48
- snguyen
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Re: wonderful world
tree wrote:
saint nguyen?
Sometimes K says that why human beings are so … incredibly … stupid and apologizes for the word. I am not one of K religion saints but I can understand why he uses the word.
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#15 2011-12-20 19:34:04
- snguyen
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night wrote:
snguyen wrote:
KFA forum is like a garbage place where you come to dump your lonely thoughts that beg for some recognition. But it is so. Life is emptiness. And that is the beauty of it.
What's up snguyen, not in a good mood today?
Indeed, emptiness, which is just the same as fullness really. Matter looks quite full - this rock, this animal, this tree - but look close enough down to the scale of atoms and it is mostly empty. And yet, it appears full. This room is full of light rays crossing in all directions, constantly. And yet it is empty.
What a wonder that all this emptiness has taken form.
I enjoy emptiness of course and that is the highest heaven there is. Everything else you try to fill it with causes the pain of a void. When you are not half serious and half romantic, you will not try to describe it because it becomes garbage in the forum.
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#16 2011-12-20 19:35:50
- pearl
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Re: wonderful world
BobD wrote:
snguyen wrote:
KFA forum is like a garbage place where you come to dump your lonely thoughts that beg for some recognition. But it is so. Life is emptiness. And that is the beauty of it.
More like a pond to look at our reflection, that we would rather skip rocks off of, so as to see distortion
It's where the selves get exposed freely and then some get transformed into nothingness...whilst some remain rock solid and don't budge. (-:
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#17 2011-12-20 19:37:55
- pearl
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night wrote:
What a wonder that all this emptiness has taken form.
Incredible, isn't it?
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#18 2011-12-20 19:39:16
- tree
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Re: wonderful world
snguyen wrote:
tree wrote:
saint nguyen?
Sometimes K says that why human beings are so … incredibly … stupid and apologizes for the word. I am not one of K religion saints but I can understand why he uses the word.
go, and sin no more
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#19 2011-12-21 00:49:02
- Jayaraj
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Re: wonderful world
snguyen wrote:
KFA forum is like a garbage place where you come to dump your lonely thoughts that beg for some recognition. But it is so. Life is emptiness. And that is the beauty of it.
What sir, don't tell me you are begging for recognition!
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#20 2011-12-21 00:59:49
- snguyen
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Re: wonderful world
night wrote:
snguyen wrote:
KFA forum is like a garbage place where you come to dump your lonely thoughts that beg for some recognition. But it is so. Life is emptiness. And that is the beauty of it.
What's up snguyen, not in a good mood today?
Indeed, emptiness, which is just the same as fullness really. Matter looks quite full - this rock, this animal, this tree - but look close enough down to the scale of atoms and it is mostly empty. And yet, it appears full. This room is full of light rays crossing in all directions, constantly. And yet it is empty.
What a wonder that all this emptiness has taken form.
Of course sometimes I got pretty bad headache and frustration because meditation is often intense when in a very attractive flow, all late night and so on. To be serious about all matters of life is not easy and to say it is beautiful, perfect, harmonious, loving and so on without bad moment of frustration is just a lie.
Emptiness is a reality in the mind when it is very quiet and intense. Such emptiness is complete in itself and the insight it brings is not to fill it with anything. Or a false process is to fill it which is not to see the true nature of life: emptiness. Emptiness is also freedom, which has not a thing to be concerned about.
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#21 2011-12-21 01:04:22
- snguyen
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Re: wonderful world
tree wrote:
snguyen wrote:
tree wrote:
saint nguyen?
Sometimes K says that why human beings are so … incredibly … stupid and apologizes for the word. I am not one of K religion saints but I can understand why he uses the word.
go, and sin no more
An incredible phrase isn't it? Why is it so? That is because a sinner knows his sin and thus knows himself. He has a chance to be free and go sin no more; whereas the self righteous has no chance.
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#22 2011-12-21 01:04:59
- tree
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Re: wonderful world
shall we debate the taste of sugar...or salt?
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#23 2011-12-21 01:09:17
- tree
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Re: wonderful world
(my sweets sweeter than your sweet)
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#24 2011-12-21 07:10:55
- Eden
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tree wrote:
shall we debate the taste of sugar...or salt?
Let's inquire into the taste together tree...takes two to taste sugar I heard.
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#25 2011-12-21 16:02:13
- snguyen
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tree wrote:
(my sweets sweeter than your sweet)
I see. But either you are salt or sugar. When you are sugar you talk about sugar. When you are salt you talk salt. You may talk about what you want to know what it is sugar and salt.
Theoretically everything is known. The more you know of theory the more you are biased. And that is why you need to talk about the reality of yourself, honestly.
You are friendly only when you are with facts. That is when the mind is really simple and naturally humble for the facts, the things are so and they are independent of your noisy reactions.
And a talk can happen only between two friends.
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