KFA - Krishnamurti Foundation of America

pearl wrote:

natura wrote:

pearl wrote:

Don't fool yourselves that you are speaking from "no center".  If bruce or another has no center then why are you busy defending him, talking for him?  As for the forum it would do very well without patronizing, sidekicks and psuedo gurus who claim all sorts of rubbish things that K exactly warned about and pointed to.

Thanks, pearl

couldn't be said more correctly,

especially that part I like most: ‘Don't fool yourself that you are speaking from "no center".’

Isn't it the danger K warned about, thinking we are speaking from "no center".  It is the greatest trap infact, another belief, knowledge.  And then there is no more learning but authority and self aggrandizement, which is the very end of inquiry.  But K talked about the possibility of inquiry.  That's what I'm interested in.  Yet the ground here seems not fertile enough for such a possibility to sprout except ocassionally, inspite of the great oppurtunity being presented. Thanks.

Yes it is a danger, a real danger and trap, indeed. And all the consequences, you say, we can see here on the forum provided we are able to see.

< Yet the ground here seems not fertile enough…>

Unfortunately, it is yet not fertile enough everywhere else…

K: Living, intelligence, love, compassion; they are all too
limited. You and I are sitting here. We have come to a point and
there is that thing which perhaps later on might be put into words
without any sense of pressure, and so without any illusion. Don't
you see beyond the wall? - the word, I mean? We have come to a
certain point, and we are saying there is something still more - you
understand? There is something behind all that. Is it palpable? Can
we touch it? Is it something that the mind can capture? You
follow?

we are not talking about physiology

Eden wrote:

awareness wrote:

we are not talking about physiology

Well there's your problem right there....your head is stuck up your other dimension.

where is a problem?

Eden wrote:

It's a figure of speech...ever heard of it? 

Merry Christmas:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Figure_of_speech

yes, it is consciousness

natura wrote:

pearl wrote:

natura wrote:

Thanks, pearl

couldn't be said more correctly,

especially that part I like most: ‘Don't fool yourself that you are speaking from "no center".’

Isn't it the danger K warned about, thinking we are speaking from "no center".  It is the greatest trap infact, another belief, knowledge.  And then there is no more learning but authority and self aggrandizement, which is the very end of inquiry.  But K talked about the possibility of inquiry.  That's what I'm interested in.  Yet the ground here seems not fertile enough for such a possibility to sprout except ocassionally, inspite of the great oppurtunity being presented. Thanks.

Yes it is a danger, a real danger and trap, indeed. And all the consequences, you say, we can see here on the forum provided we are able to see.

< Yet the ground here seems not fertile enough…>

Unfortunately, it is yet not fertile enough everywhere else…

Yes, yes, seeing this with you dear natura.  Also seeing that the only place it can sprout is within your very heart and mind.  Infact, it is the only place to turn to...to reach, enter...you understand what I mean?

pearl wrote:

natura wrote:

pearl wrote:

Isn't it the danger K warned about, thinking we are speaking from "no center".  It is the greatest trap infact, another belief, knowledge.  And then there is no more learning but authority and self aggrandizement, which is the very end of inquiry.  But K talked about the possibility of inquiry.  That's what I'm interested in.  Yet the ground here seems not fertile enough for such a possibility to sprout except ocassionally, inspite of the great oppurtunity being presented. Thanks.

Yes it is a danger, a real danger and trap, indeed. And all the consequences, you say, we can see here on the forum provided we are able to see.

< Yet the ground here seems not fertile enough…>

Unfortunately, it is yet not fertile enough everywhere else…

Yes, yes, seeing this with you dear natura.  Also seeing that the only place it can sprout is within your very heart and mind.  Infact, it is the only place to turn to...to reach, enter...you understand what I mean?

Lovely said

Yet not to forget the mirror of the world

Hi Eden,

Have been a pretty long time since we were in direct contact.

pearl wrote:

Also seeing that the only place it can sprout is within your very heart and mind.  Infact, it is the only place to turn to...to reach, enter...you understand what I mean?

Eden wrote:

There is plenty of fertile ground ;-)  More than one could possibly need.

Perl mentioned heart and mind. You say there are more.

I know you criticize Krishnamurti sometimes. I know you speak about body and its language.

Would you kindly explain what you mean now?

I’m really curious especially about body because I probably understand where you are going to.

natura wrote:

Peer wrote:

Hi
I started this thread and it got to the 89th post, this one not included !!!! I do not have the faintest idea what is all this endless chattering[being polite] to do with the issue of this thread?

Hi Peer,

Yes, it’s not exactly silence which is necessary for understanding as Krishnamurti have meant it.

On the other hand as I once said in your thread, a silent forum wouldn’t exist, would it?

Anyway, if you have any suggestions to this matter (maybe to improve something or so) I think we could be your happy guests to listen.

Well yes actually I do have a few suggestions. I`m certainly not against discussing things, after all telepathy is not yet a claim here in the forum[LOL?], but I`m very much for sticking to the point and not spreading in one thread through all fields of life, ego trips included...that is very much what a moderator of a regular forum would be in charge of, if people lose the point, he advices to stick to the point, should the the point be still on the loose, he closes the thread+addresses to a new thread under a new topic[nobody gets hurt if the purpose of it is understood]. IMHO that would put much more order in what people would want to talk about+it will make newbies to return to the forum and not run away once seen all this unfocused discussions[being polite].

Last edited by Peer (2011-12-02 19:47:55)

Peer wrote:

Hi
I started this thread and it got to the 89th post, this one not included !!!! I do not have the faintest idea what is all this endless chattering[being polite] to do with the issue of this thread?

anything you try to control will end up controlling you

oh and being curmudgeonly but not really having anything to say has been taken by... hang on there's a queue, get in line.