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#51 2011-11-26 13:19:30
- jfs
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Re: Who wants to talk?
To put thought away requires intent and therefore more thought.
To relieve on ourself of our thought we must see our thought in action.
Actually see thought coming from the brain and in that seeing there is clarity in the relationship of our thought in our lives and, as K says, with right action we can be free of the influences of our thoughts.
Until then our thoughts are who we are and we are not seperate from our thoughts.
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#52 2011-11-26 13:26:57
- awareness
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Re: Who wants to talk?
jfs wrote:
To put thought away requires intent and therefore more thought.
To relieve on ourself of our thought we must see our thought in action.
Actually see thought coming from the brain and in that seeing there is clarity in the relationship of our thought in our lives and, as K says, with right action we can be free of the influences of our thoughts.
Until then our thoughts are who we are and we are not seperate from our thoughts.
thats right
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#53 2011-11-26 16:31:16
- Eden
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Re: Who wants to talk?
awareness wrote:
thats right
.......says the domesticated animal in the city zoo as he nibbles on his domesticated food.
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#54 2011-11-26 23:09:44
- sds
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Eden wrote:
awareness wrote:
thats right
.......says the domesticated animal in the city zoo as he nibbles on his domesticated food.
Are animals at zoos domesticated? Fully? Or do they still contain some of their wildness? From the little I know, they are not fully domesticated and still cannot be trusted even for a second. For in that one split second, the zookeeper might be killed.
But I definitely see your point that you make often that man has become domesticated and has lost his animalness. K was never domesticated and thus was a threat to the system.
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#55 2011-11-27 12:51:01
- jfs
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Re: Who wants to talk?
Eden wrote:
awareness wrote:
thats right
.......says the domesticated animal in the city zoo as he nibbles on his domesticated food.
Domestication is conditioned.
We are speaking of freedom from conditioning which might be described as 'wild' as compared to domesticated.
Wild and unpredictable and free.
Maybe you can only see domestication because you can only see yourself.
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#56 2011-11-28 00:46:33
- awareness
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hi bruce, do you have seen, that the forum is closed for new registrations?
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#57 2011-11-28 00:48:33
- bruce sean
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No , I didn't know. Is it because there are a lot of spammers, or because some people use multiple identities?!
Either way, we appear to be stuck with what we have now.
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#58 2011-11-28 00:51:14
- awareness
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ok, good night bruce, here in europe the day is beginning
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#59 2011-11-28 01:02:09
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awareness wrote:
hi bruce, do you have seen, that the forum is closed for new registrations?
due to spammers, admin is setting up a new registration procedure
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#60 2011-11-28 01:04:59
- awareness
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tree wrote:
awareness wrote:
hi bruce, do you have seen, that the forum is closed for new registrations?
due to spammers, admin is setting up a new registration procedure
thx
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#61 2011-11-28 01:08:20
- bruce sean
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awareness wrote:
ok, good night bruce, here in europe the day is beginning
Enjoy the new day, awareness! Not you, you understand...enjoy it without a subject, I might say.
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#62 2011-11-29 00:20:19
- Eden
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Re: Who wants to talk?
jfs wrote:
Eden wrote:
awareness wrote:
thats right
.......says the domesticated animal in the city zoo as he nibbles on his domesticated food.
Domestication is conditioned.
We are speaking of freedom from conditioning which might be described as 'wild' as compared to domesticated.
Wild and unpredictable and free.
Maybe you can only see domestication because you can only see yourself.
Every animal on the planet is conditioned, and always will be, including the human. Conditioning is not the issue. One can be conditioned to see illusion for what it is, or one can be conditioned to fall for the myths and stories.
There is nothing wrong with a domesticated monkey or human, I just prefer not to live with one in my house, nor am I interested in mating with one.
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