KFA - Krishnamurti Foundation of America

yes everywhere thoughts are playing

wrong or right is thought again

before we try to equalize everything by labelling it thought, what say we understand that thought is a part of the functioning of a human being, and thought comes in two forms, practical or technical, and psychological.  One deals with what is actually there and one projects into imagination and takes it for reality.

joe wrote:

before we try to equalize everything by labelling it thought, what say we understand that thought is a part of the functioning of a human being, and thought comes in two forms, practical or technical, and psychological.  One deals with what is actually there and one projects into imagination and takes it for reality.

both are conditioned

tree wrote:

both are conditioned

Indeed. Every form is conditioned (a result of conditions). And that is fine.

whatever tree...if you want to promote homogenization instead of seeing what is happening, go ahead and equalize it all.

they could well be, sure...would you like to express more about what you are saying?

your replies, what is your meaning?

goodnight tree, enjoy the parade...think about it and you will know, or keep the disassociative tack going and you will not.

Sam:Welcome dhi and wonderful to hear ya.:-)

Thank you Sam.

Last edited by dhirendra (2011-11-26 05:49:15)

Ah, now I see why you hide behind other posters
and these meaningless one liners, fear?

Awesome, I can feel it...:-)

pearl wrote:

Alright, but if I ever lived with someone whom I truly, deeply loved and vice versa that would not occur.  We'd have no time to insult each other, threaten each other, or fight each other.  On the contrary he'd be the happiest man alive and the luckiest, and most fortunate to have me as his partner and I'd feel exactly the same.  Every moment of it would be filled with wonder and love and ecstacy, totally.  Nothing less than that.  He will never be able to hurt me nor me him which means I would only share my life intimately with someone who is fully mature enough to meet me with the same intensity, and with whom it is totally possible to communicate in every situation.  Why would I put someone I love deeply, down, and why would he do the same if we were sensitive to each other?  I find nothing beautiful Eden, about a man/woman who keep putting each other down.  And this has nothing to do with you Eden, or any other.  But, love does not hurt.  In love there is no hurt.  I do not associate aggresivity with being feminine, nor does the feminine tolerate being abused.  It's a fine balance!  But, I must say I love your honesty and appreciate it very much and please, I'm not judging you or any other.  Not at all, but simply saying how I see, feel, live...

Good night, Eden.  Sending you and your's much love.

Good day pearl.  How are ya.  There are a few things that I would like to share in regards to your post above.  Clearly I see the difference between two whole people entering into a relationship out of wholeness, than two people entering into a relationship out of neediness or lack or insufficiency of some sort. We have known each other for how long, you and I? ;-)

When a mature and totally 'whole' woman is fiery, highly sensitive, and emotionally responsive to a man's momentary(or repetitive) lack of integrity, or his inability to rise to meet a challenge, etc it is a kind of response that is just a momentary disgust or sense of danger, rather than some kind of "hurt" or "aggressiveness".  To suggest that there would never be such an intense situation in a healthy relationship is to speculate and it is not my experience at all.  I used to see relationship exactly the way you do.  The thing is pearl, when we are truly open to life, it is always pushing our limits and creating disturbances and a man is not going to meet every challenge perfectly...depending how open the feminine partner is to her man's masculine presence and direction, her response will be of equal intensity.

You assume that a woman's fiery and intense response is a lack of communication, when in fact 5 seconds of anger can say far more than a 20 minute discussion.  It is actually an incredibly efficient way to communicate as the feminine partners body is wide open, utterly sensitive, and thus instantly and intensely communicates her man's state of health moment by moment.  It's the most challenging path of all, and few men can handle it. It takes incredible alertness to be with such a woman, and she has no tolerance for a man who is not 'at least' her equal in all ways.

What woman would depend on a man who is less trustworthy or alert or intense(as you say) than herself?  Like attracts like.  Being with a whole, healthy, vibrant woman who is growing stronger by the day is not an easy challenge, yet it is the most rich and incredible and nourishing place to be....and indeed it is filled with the wonder and ecstasy and the love that you so clearly shared above.

Last edited by Eden (2011-11-26 16:24:29)