KFA - Krishnamurti Foundation of America

Eden wrote:

bruce sean wrote:

Eden wrote:

So helping others never involves collaboration ever? It's never ever ever practical to collaborate when helping another out of a hole or out of confusion or a trap?   You are making that absolute declaration?

Not with another who also 'sees'; collaboration with those who want help.

Your statement is entirely idiotic.

No need to defend it: you see it if you see it, and if you don't you don't.

joe wrote:

to say 'they are just shoes' is really a very limited vision bruce, especially for a guy who says he sees everything.  As in anything there are choices that support the environment and workers rights and there are things that do not do that.  To close your eyes to it is sheer hypocrisy, bruce.  Do you recycle your glass or can or do you throw them in the dump?  Really, again it is a serious question.

It is serious for me, but not for me, so I will respond it: I do not care about recycling anything, don't care to 'support' an environment which gets destroyed in the first place by an illusion: I am concerned with dispelling that illusion only, not with helping a little bit here and there, while in the meantime we get sidetracked and lose the core issue, while in the meantime we kill people for an idea!
  It is people who are concerned with the little action who are closing their eyes.

bruce sean wrote:

joe wrote:

to say 'they are just shoes' is really a very limited vision bruce, especially for a guy who says he sees everything.  As in anything there are choices that support the environment and workers rights and there are things that do not do that.  To close your eyes to it is sheer hypocrisy, bruce.  Do you recycle your glass or can or do you throw them in the dump?  Really, again it is a serious question.

It is serious for me, but not for me, so I will respond it: I do not care about recycling anything, don't care to 'support' an environment which gets destroyed in the first place by an illusion: I am concerned with dispelling that illusion only, not with helping a little bit here and there, while in the meantime we get sidetracked and lose the core issue, while in the meantime we kill people for an idea!
  It is people who are concerned with the little action who are closing their eyes.

the little action is where the big action really is bruce....every day in every way, you are what you do, nothing else.

bruce sean wrote:

I only said this: if you really see it, then you don't watch it. That's all.

If you really see it, then you don't watch batman movies or the Olympics or CNN nor do you eat popcorn. That's all.

Eden wrote:

bruce sean wrote:

I only said this: if you really see it, then you don't watch it. That's all.

If you really see it, then you don't watch batman movies or the Olympics or CNN nor do you eat popcorn. That's all.

No, only the Olympics I don't watch.

joe wrote:

bruce sean wrote:

joe wrote:

to say 'they are just shoes' is really a very limited vision bruce, especially for a guy who says he sees everything.  As in anything there are choices that support the environment and workers rights and there are things that do not do that.  To close your eyes to it is sheer hypocrisy, bruce.  Do you recycle your glass or can or do you throw them in the dump?  Really, again it is a serious question.

It is serious for me, but not for me, so I will respond it: I do not care about recycling anything, don't care to 'support' an environment which gets destroyed in the first place by an illusion: I am concerned with dispelling that illusion only, not with helping a little bit here and there, while in the meantime we get sidetracked and lose the core issue, while in the meantime we kill people for an idea!
  It is people who are concerned with the little action who are closing their eyes.

the little action is where the big action really is bruce....every day in every way, you are what you do, nothing else.

No, recycling bottles doesn't dispell the center, after the first bottle, or after several billions of them. In fact, it is a distraction.

bruce sean wrote:

Eden wrote:

bruce sean wrote:

I only said this: if you really see it, then you don't watch it. That's all.

If you really see it, then you don't watch batman movies or the Olympics or CNN nor do you eat popcorn. That's all.

No, only the Olympics I don't watch.

exactly, and you watch everything else.  your dullness seems to be almost total in its nature, cyborg-like.

Eden wrote:

bruce sean wrote:

Eden wrote:

A parade is just as full of facts as Batman movies, if not more so.

It's the same fact repeated over and over again.

if it was, then you wouldn't have used the term "facts", plural.  So as usual, you are full of contradictory crap, and its the same crap, repeated over and over again.

Dear angry, 'facts', the plural, was used by you-but perhaps you're too full of anger and indignation to see it.

I don't go back, only forward.

said who?

I also recommend 'Hit and run', and especially 'The Obama 2016', where another top psychologist (professor emeritus) shows a superficial understanding of things.

You're welcome, and if anyone has some suggestions of movies to watch, please be my guest. They offer material for discussion, because always movies reflect life: mostly the understanding of life of the screenwriters, but also the nuances infiltrated by the actors themselves.