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bruce sean wrote:

There can be misunderstandings, due to words-that is nothing. But fundamentally, I see everything, nothing is hidden from view.

  But others don't see everything, and may see what I sometimes say as judgement: I am not going to give all the reasons for saying something, all the time, reasons which I see at once, in one instant, not as a result of analysis.

  And since they only see a few fragments, but not many others, they think I may not have enough information to say certain things. That explains other people's comments.

  And I don't bother about those comments either: one either sees it or one doesn't.

I see at once, in one instant, not as a result of analysis that what you have said is seriously flawed - and unfortunately you seem to have boxed yourself into actually thinking that what you think (yes, this is the right word) is infallible.

bruce sean wrote:

There can be misunderstandings, due to words-that is nothing. But fundamentally, I see everything, nothing is hidden from view.

  But others don't see everything, and may see what I sometimes say as judgement: I am not going to give all the reasons for saying something, all the time, reasons which I see at once, in one instant, not as a result of analysis.

  And since they only see a few fragments, but not many others, they think I may not have enough information to say certain things. That explains other people's comments.

  And I don't bother about those comments either: one either sees it or one doesn't.

You know bruce...if you ever find your position in life untenable...please, please, please, e-mail me. I will be happy to talk to you.  Now...on the other hand...if your prescence here is simply to willfully post obviously ludicrous things to study the reactions you get...Bravo my friend...bravo. My hats off to you...even though you probably could do with getting laid and/or a more diversified life than just a movie and a message board. Just don't lose yourself in the part...OK? OK.

Another from Einstein:

"There are only two ways to live your life. One is as though nothing is a miracle. The other is as though everything is a miracle."

Here are some quotes from the spiritual teacher Eckhart Tolle:

Not to be able to stop thinking is a dreadful affliction, but we don't realize this because almost everybody is suffering from it, so it is considered normal. This incessant mental noise prevents you from finding that realm of inner stillness that is inseparable from Being.

When you become aware of silence, immediately there is that state of inner still alertness. You are present. You have stepped out of thousands of years of collective human conditioning.

The Truth is inseparable from who you are. Yes, you are the Truth. If you look for it elsewhere, you will be deceived every time.

Dogmas--religious, political, scientific--arise out of erroneous belief that thought can encapsulate reality or truth. Dogmas are collective conceptual prisons. And the strange thing is that people love their prison cells because they give them a sense of security and a false sense of "I know."

Just as dogs love to chew bones, the mind loves to get its teeth into problems. That's why it does crossword puzzles and builds atom bombs.

Pleasure is always derived from something outside you, whereas joy arises from within.

What is commonly called "falling in love" is in most cases an intensification of egoic wanting and needing. You become addicted to another person, or rather to your image of that person. It has nothing to do with true love, which contains no wanting whatsoever.

Pain can only feed on pain. Pain cannot feed on joy. It finds it quite indigestible.

Wisdom comes with the ability to be still. Just look and just listen. No more is needed. Being still, looking, and listening activates the non-conceptual intelligence within you. Let stillness direct your words and actions.

Death is a stripping away of all that is not you. The secret to life is to "die before you die"--and find that there is no death.

The past gives you an identity and the future holds the promise of salvation, of fulfillment in whatever form. Both are illusions.

Religion, to a large extent, became divisive rather than unifying forces. Instead of bringing about an ending of violence and hatred through a realization of the fundamental oneness of all life, they brought more violence and hatred, more divisions between people as well as between different religions and even within the same religion. They became ideologies, belief systems people could identify with and so use them to enhance their false sense of self. Through them, they could make themselves "right" and others "wrong" and thus define their identity through their enemies, the "others," the "nonbelievers" or "wrong believers" who not infrequently they saw themselves justified in killing.

Look at a tree, a flower, a plant. Let your awareness rest upon it. How still they are, how deeply rooted in Being. Allow nature to teach you stillness.

Love makes the world less worldly, less dense, more transparent to the divine dimension, the light of consciousness itself.

Time isn't precious at all, because it is an illusion.

The eternal present is the space within which your whole life unfolds, the one factor that remains constant. Life is now. There was never a time when your life was not now, nor will there ever be.

Neither failure nor success has the power to change your inner state of Being.

The most rigid structures, the most impervious to change, will collapse first.

To stay present in everyday life, it helps to be deeply rooted within yourself; otherwise, the mind, which has incredible momentum, will drag you along like a wild river.

Don't seek happiness. If you seek it, you won't find it, because seeking is the antithesis of happiness.

War is a mind-set, and all action that comes out of such a mind-set will either strengthen the enemy, the perceived evil, or, if the war is won, will create a new enemy, a new evil equal to and often worse than the one that was defeated. There is a deep interrelatedness between your state of consciousness and external reality. When you are in the grip of a mind-set such as "war," your perceptions become extremely selective as well as distorted. In other words, you will see only what you want to see and then misinterpret it. You can imagine what kind of action comes out of such a delusional system. Or instead of imagining it, watch the news on TV tonight.

The mind left to itself creates monstrosities, and not only in art galleries. Look at our urban landscapes and industrial wastelands. No civilization has ever produced so much ugliness.

When you surrender to what is and so become fully present, the past ceases to have any power. You do not need it anymore. Presence is the key. Now is the key.

Hope is what keeps you going, but hope keeps you focused on the future, and this continued focus perpetuates your denial of the Now and therefore your unhappiness.

All cravings are the mind seeking salvation or fulfillment in external things and in the future as a substitute for the joy of Being.

I would say that there are only two ways to live life; understanding or not understanding the relation in which one's sense of self is given.

sds wrote:

Another from Einstein:

"There are only two ways to live your life. One is as though nothing is a miracle. The other is as though everything is a miracle."

'As though' means thought, imagination, all that; believing in miracles means nothing.

  In fact, he said that imagination is more powerful than knowledge-but obviously they go together, without knowledge there is no imagination.

  Another childish statement of his...

BobD wrote:

Well good golly...you might be right bruce.

The person who sees everything is never wrong...

You can only be proud of me when you identify with me, in which case you are proud of yourself!

Stick with me and you can learn a lot! We can both learn new things.

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