KFA - Krishnamurti Foundation of America

For whatever it is worth, I see Pearl differently than some of you on here. I only see a Beautiful, alive, insightful, wise, mature, passionate, inquiring woman. A woman who is alone and free and not influenced by anybody. And it is the most beautiful thing to see and witness.

Whatever she says has unbelievable depth and meaning to it. But most miss it and are not interested in looking at what she is pointing to. I on the other hand, take everything she says, even if I dont understand it at the time and stay with it and do not dismiss it, and almost always, later I see the truth to what she is saying.

This is just how I see her and just wanted to share my perceptions.

ok, thanks for sharing...that was already obvious though, sds, you only see what you want to see, not the whole picture.  Sure pearl says some wise sounding things, she just wraps it up in bitters and expects others to eat it.  Why wrap up such wisdom in bitters?  Why label people endlessly?  Surely there is no wisdom in that, sds.

joe wrote:

ok, thanks for sharing...that was already obvious though, sds, you only see what you want to see, not the whole picture.  Sure pearl says some wise sounding things, she just wraps it up in bitters and expects others to eat it.  Why wrap up such wisdom in bitters?  Why label people endlessly?  Surely there is no wisdom in that, sds.

This is where we differ Joe. I see wisdom even in her put downs or bitters, if you want to call them that. There is wisdom in everything she does and says. But by no means am I a follower of hers or blindly accept anything she says. I just happen to see some truth in almost everything she says.

kirsten wrote:

sure brother you see as you see and so do i and everybody

Yes, madam, so true, so true.

I was surprised to see that you copied and pasted what Pearl wrote to everyone and replaced her name with his. Very sneaky on your part.....

and you find that to be sneaky ? hmm.. yes you see as you.. see

sds wrote:

joe wrote:

ok, thanks for sharing...that was already obvious though, sds, you only see what you want to see, not the whole picture.  Sure pearl says some wise sounding things, she just wraps it up in bitters and expects others to eat it.  Why wrap up such wisdom in bitters?  Why label people endlessly?  Surely there is no wisdom in that, sds.

This is where we differ Joe. I see wisdom even in her put downs or bitters, if you want to call them that. There is wisdom in everything she does and says. But by no means am I a follower of hers or blindly accept anything she says. I just happen to see some truth in almost everything she says.

yes, I know you see that but as was just pointed out you are following violence and derogatory comments because it appeals to you somehow.  Is that what you wish to continue doing?  Is it that much of a rush to watch her slander nearly everyone (yourself included plenty of times) that you can not break from the teat?  To say she does not influence you but you agree with nearly everything she says is a sign of self-loathing and I do wish you would not attract abusive type relationships any longer.

sds wrote:

kirsten wrote:

and you find that to be sneaky ? hmm.. yes you see as you.. see

Laughing I am. I just was surprised to see what you have done. I thought it sounded familiar and then I did a little research and found that post where Pearl said that to Everyone. So it was not your words, but hers, and now you directed them towards her. That was the part that was sneaky.

ok, now it makes sense to me too...I was worried about you Kirsten you sounded just like pearl.

joe wrote:

sds wrote:

kirsten wrote:

and you find that to be sneaky ? hmm.. yes you see as you.. see

Laughing I am. I just was surprised to see what you have done. I thought it sounded familiar and then I did a little research and found that post where Pearl said that to Everyone. So it was not your words, but hers, and now you directed them towards her. That was the part that was sneaky.

ok, now it makes sense to me too...I was worried about you Kirsten you sounded just like pearl.

Laughing. See Kirsten, you were indeed being sneaky......

joe wrote:

sds wrote:

joe wrote:

ok, thanks for sharing...that was already obvious though, sds, you only see what you want to see, not the whole picture.  Sure pearl says some wise sounding things, she just wraps it up in bitters and expects others to eat it.  Why wrap up such wisdom in bitters?  Why label people endlessly?  Surely there is no wisdom in that, sds.

This is where we differ Joe. I see wisdom even in her put downs or bitters, if you want to call them that. There is wisdom in everything she does and says. But by no means am I a follower of hers or blindly accept anything she says. I just happen to see some truth in almost everything she says.

yes, I know you see that but as was just pointed out you are following violence and derogatory comments because it appeals to you somehow.  Is that what you wish to continue doing?  Is it that much of a rush to watch her slander nearly everyone (yourself included plenty of times) that you can not break from the teat?  To say she does not influence you but you agree with nearly everything she says is a sign of self-loathing and I do wish you would not attract abusive type relationships any longer.

I follow you somewhat and then you jump off to assumptions and conclusions that are just not true.

I am violent as all human beings are violent. I am derogatory at times as all human beings are derogatory at times. Yes, it appeals to my ego, to my lower nature if you will. I do not wish to continue doing it, but I am human as I say and powerless at times to resist it.

I am okay with Pearl talking bitter with me, as you say, she has done that with me too plenty of times. I usually react in anger and act childish, but when I look back, she is usually right in what she wrote to me.

The part where you make assumptions is when you rush and jump to the conclusion that just because I agree with most of what she says means that I am influenced by her and that I am self loathing, etc.

but maybe when you look back ...

joe wrote:

yeah you are right, those are assumptions, well spotted.  Withdrawn.

Thanks Joe, my friend, nice talking with you. Off to eat some dinner. Have a nice evening. Much love and respect for you....

joe wrote:

pearl wrote:

joe wrote:

I like sds, sam.  Ok, no point talking to you today obviously.  All you can do is label and divide people one from the other, it seems.

You like?  What is it you like?  Firstly, you need to learn what it means to communicate with another, with real respect, real affection, then you don't need to be saying, "I like, I love" and so on.  But for now, your heart and mind is without love, without beauty and from there you say, "I like, I love" which are but divisive lies you tell yourself and others.  If you truly had love, affection in your heart your actions would be completely different.

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goes the sheep....