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#26 2012-05-30 06:49:59

Eden
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Re: Relationship?

ehassett wrote:

Only when there are no images between the two is there a relationship.

Collected Works, Vol. XVII,7,Choiceless Awareness

Even maggots in poop have relationship. In fact I think I'd rather have some poop on my wall than this quote.

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#27 2012-05-30 07:04:56

Eden
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Re: Relationship?

Seeing myths and beliefs and images for what they are is barely square one. It is basically the maggot level of spiritual growth.  It only gets more wild from there ;-)

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#28 2012-05-30 07:22:59

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Re: Relationship?

snguyen wrote:

I see the clear difference that for Dickens, the human being with its accumulated content is seen as a profound secret and mystery, whereas for K and for any person with deep self knowledge, the profound secret and mystery lie behind when all that ignored human content is exposed by oneself to oneself. Of course the short excerpts above do not reveal their whole works and we have to look at what is beyond the quotes above in their works.

Human consciousness is no secret to the one who deeply understands himself and thus is free from it. Only when he is free from the conditioned consciousness then it is not a secret. But as long as he learns it through books written about the subject, it is still a secret to him. The secret is a puzzling confusion that cycles him through fear, pleasure, horror, despair and hope, and with these he cannot approach another human freely, meaning wanting nothing from anybody or anything. Only when each one is free from the old consciousness, relationship is then a very strong, incorruptible net between individuals who are whole, self sufficient, and independent. How do you know about this? It is in yourself, not arrogance, but see how big a gift is given and written in you.

very well written

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#29 2012-05-30 07:24:34

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Re: Relationship?

Eden wrote:

awareness wrote:

it meets the nail at its head

what are ya building?  or are ya just hanging a picture on the wall?

nah, eden, you know it: figure of speech:-)

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