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Eden · 2012-05-23 04:45:59

I figured you wouldn't like that choice of words. Replace "deserve" with any other verb you would like.

Eden · 2012-05-23 04:49:37

When an animal is unable to perceive patterns that other animals of his species are able to perceive, he gets eaten, or dies. That is the natural order. Perhaps you and Dano and kirsten and the rest of your gene pool has not noticed?

beans · 2012-05-23 04:57:39

"you and Dano and kirsten and the rest of your gene pool" - ah, more division, grasshopper. We're all human.

"Perhaps you and Dano and kirsten and the rest of your gene pool has not noticed?"...I wonder, is there pride and entitlement behind these words?

Eden · 2012-05-23 05:01:11

beans wrote:
We're all human.

Tell that to neanderthal. Homosapien is on his last leg. Enjoy your fellow "knowing man" while they last.

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beans · 2012-05-23 05:10:28

"Tell that to neanderthal. Homosapien is on his last leg. Enjoy your fellow "knowing man" while they last."

Hhhhh....both the past and a future projection. Guess the present is just not good enough for some...

The particular knowledge that you lay out in this forum is really the same type of system that many others use, just a little more new-agey, sorry.

Eden · 2012-05-23 05:31:59

It has everything to do with the present. It is your "knowing" that is keeping you from feeling and seeing the moment as it is, and it is your knowing that is leading your species to extinction, which is no big deal as the other species is already present.

Eden · 2012-05-23 05:39:02

Eden wrote:
It's call the thinning of the herd. The stupid die, and the intelligent live on. And guess what happens then.....the intelligent reproduce. Really....I know that is hard to believe, but see if you can muster up the brain cells to compute that fact. Oh and by the way.....this has been going on for billions of years.

Hmmm. I guess you couldn't muster them up....and thus the most obvious pattern in animal survival and evolution still eludes you. Night night!

beans · 2012-05-23 05:52:48

Oh, eden. I think you need some time away from the compound, a fresh perspective. Why don't you take a vacation, Europe or Australia perhaps.

RJ · 2012-05-23 06:10:31

beans wrote:
Oh, eden. I think you need some time away from the compound, a fresh perspective. Why don't you take a vacation, Europe or Australia perhaps.

this theme of banning people or wanting them to leave has been coming up a lot just lately.

what do you think it says about the person who wants others to leave or to be made to leave?

beans · 2012-05-23 06:19:07

yOU mIsUndErstAnd, rOlly, nO OnE's AskIng hIm tO lEAvE thE fOrUm

Ken · 2012-05-23 11:04:02

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sds · 2012-05-23 11:17:37

Eden wrote:
beans wrote:
We're all human.
Tell that to neanderthal. Homosapien is on his last leg. Enjoy your fellow "knowing man" while they last.

I have found some of your latest posts intriguing and fascinating Eden, maybe there is something there.

I was wondering though where or how you came to these knowings, insights, perceptions about the seamless whole and about man and nature and pattern recognition, etc. Is this through the teachings of Krishnamurti, or Bohm, or from some other source, or did you discover this on your own? Or a combination of K and others, and yourself?

Ken · 2012-05-23 12:08:49

Eden wrote:
The stupid die, and the intelligent live on. And guess what happens then.....the intelligent reproduce. Really....I know that is hard to believe, but see if you can muster up the brain cells to compute that fact. Oh and by the way.....this has been going on for billions of years.

♦ On the contrary. Stupid people reproduce all the time, and many intelligent people don't reproduce. Reproduction has nothing to do with intelligence. It's an instinct that is strong in some people and weak in others.

beans · 2012-05-23 18:48:46

Exactly true, Ken...and it's apparent on any trip to a grocery store.

Eden · 2012-05-23 21:30:35

There have been periods of time on the planet where survival and reproduction is relatively easy, and times when it is more difficult. The only reason you are here chatting right now is because one of your ancestors figured out how to migrate during an ice age or how to forage enough food for 5 kids during a long winter. Some didn't make it, some did. We are the off spring of those who figured it out.

New challenges are arising very quickly that will make survival/reproduction down the road a bit more challenging for the herd. Yet for the some it will remain quite easy.

Eden · 2012-05-23 21:32:50

(and by down the road I mean in the bigger timeline, not the puny little timeline of one's short life)

pearl · 2012-05-23 21:34:51

Ken wrote:
Eden wrote:
The stupid die, and the intelligent live on. And guess what happens then.....the intelligent reproduce. Really....I know that is hard to believe, but see if you can muster up the brain cells to compute that fact. Oh and by the way.....this has been going on for billions of years.
♦ On the contrary. Stupid people reproduce all the time, and many intelligent people don't reproduce. Reproduction has nothing to do with intelligence. It's an instinct that is strong in some people and weak in others.

I'd say quiet the contrary. It's the weak and fearful that do not want to have anything to do with being responsible, loving, nurturing parents.

pearl · 2012-05-23 21:37:55

beans wrote:
Exactly true, Ken...and it's apparent on any trip to a grocery store.

Haha maybe beans and ken were perfect little babies who never cried, never soiled their diapers. Anyways, it's a relief to know beans and ken do not wish to reproduce offspring! :-) the world needs no more disasters! ;-)

beans · 2012-05-23 21:39:09

Hey everybody, it's time for the Pearl and Eden show!

:-)

beans · 2012-05-23 23:09:14

Eden wrote:
There have been periods of time on the planet where survival and reproduction is relatively easy, and times when it is more difficult. The only reason you are here chatting right now is because one of your ancestors figured out how to migrate during an ice age or how to forage enough food for 5 kids during a long winter. Some didn't make it, some did. We are the off spring of those who figured it out.

Who is the "we" that is the offspring of those who figured it out?

Eden wrote:
New challenges are arising very quickly that will make survival/reproduction down the road a bit more challenging for the herd. Yet for the some it will remain quite easy.

Does pure awareness root for one part of the herd over another part?

Eden · 2012-05-23 23:17:25

My rooting is but another figment of your predictable imagination.

beans · 2012-05-23 23:29:59

"New challenges are arising very quickly that will make survival/reproduction down the road a bit more challenging for the herd. Yet for the some it will remain quite easy.
(and by down the road I mean in the bigger timeline, not the puny little timeline of one's short life)"

Aside from trying to predict the future (imagination), this shows "rooting" for a certain lineage (mine as opposed to yours).

Eden · 2012-05-23 23:30:03

Eden · 2012-05-23 23:35:51

beans wrote:
"New challenges are arising very quickly that will make survival/reproduction down the road a bit more challenging for the herd. Yet for the some it will remain quite easy.
(and by down the road I mean in the bigger timeline, not the puny little timeline of one's short life)"

Aside from trying to predict the future (imagination), this shows "rooting" for a certain lineage (mine as opposed to yours).

There is no need to root for anything down the road. The intelligent are already thriving, today, at this very moment. This moment is as good as any moment will ever be. I have shared that repeatedly. You are cutting isolated little fragments from all that I have shared, and are disregarding the rest....which is precisely what you do with life itself.

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