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#1 2012-05-17 07:34:31

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Alcohol and other stuffs . .

At last I've figured it. What they do, i.e. the way they 'relieve', is by more clearly defining the (albeit fake) duality. It is immediately demonstrable in (exteemely) simplistic terms by the doubling of vision which occurs when under the influence, but that is actually demostrative of what occurs in the induced allieviation of stree which is their attraction.

You see, the mind knows that duality is a falsity, and dealing in duality, which is what we all do, is thus inherently stressful. But this 'knowledge' of this falsity is subliminal, not intellectually conscious, and anything which will support it is welcome to the conscious mind. Alcohol etc. provides (albeit temporarily) just such support; it makes the duality appear more real. Although it is hard to explain, I have actually observed this operation recently with my own eyes and mind.

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#2 2012-05-17 07:46:02

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Re: Alcohol and other stuffs . .

Roots wrote:

I have actually observed this operation recently with my own eyes and mind.

...and don't forget your fatty liver.

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#3 2012-05-17 07:48:04

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Re: Alcohol and other stuffs . .

Eden wrote:

Roots wrote:

I have actually observed this operation recently with my own eyes and mind.

...and don't forget your fatty liver.

Well  . . .  maybe that's what gave me to see  . . .  since all is one.

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#4 2012-05-17 07:53:12

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Re: Alcohol and other stuffs . .

Indeed.  Know thy liver and all shall be revealed unto you.

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#5 2012-05-17 07:56:00

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Re: Alcohol and other stuffs . .

Eden wrote:

Indeed.  Know thy liver and all shall be revealed unto you.

I'll delve into it  . . . .

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#6 2012-05-17 14:32:00

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Re: Alcohol and other stuffs . .

Roots, old sock, here is what I see you saying:


There is a movement from confusion to clarity that is mimicked in reverse by the sensations of losing clarity. If this movement from confusion to clarity has a sense of insight about it, and it does, then it is very possible that this subtle movement is the movement of insight itself as sensed in operation.

I guess what I am saying is that the insight is the seeing of that movement from confusion to clarity, and that the sensing of that movement is how it feels to move from confusion to clarity.


Just a thought …

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#7 2012-05-18 05:38:58

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Re: Alcohol and other stuffs . .

wilbro99 wrote:

Roots, old sock, here is what I see you saying:


There is a movement from confusion to clarity that is mimicked in reverse by the sensations of losing clarity. If this movement from confusion to clarity has a sense of insight about it, and it does, then it is very possible that this subtle movement is the movement of insight itself as sensed in operation.

I guess what I am saying is that the insight is the seeing of that movement from confusion to clarity, and that the sensing of that movement is how it feels to move from confusion to clarity.


Just a thought …

Willy, I think my opener put it quite badly so thanks for the attempt at deciphering.

What alcohol does (I think) is it lends deffinition to the false element of division. Therefore it strengthens the illusion, and thus allieviates the tension and conflict between the false and the real which underlies our psych. Of course it only does it temporarily, but it can be usefull nevertheless. (I still don't think this is very good or clear, but maybe it's not worth the trouble).

Churchill - arguably the political saviour of the western world from demonic tyrany - was known to drink plenty, and he is reputed to have said of alcohol that he had taken more from it, than it had taken from him. Probably fair comment I'd say.

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