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#276 2012-05-13 20:28:29
- Eden
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To suggest that the universe is in disorder, and that your mind is more orderly than the universe itself, is not just partial delusion....it is total delusion.
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#277 2012-05-13 20:33:02
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Eden wrote:
Jayaraj wrote:
The view that the society is in disorder is a form of self deception? Dear friend, there are wars going on inthe world! Can that be said to be any kind of order?
It is perfect order in fact. It is the height of delusion to suggest that the universe is in disorder.
Universe you say. I said the society, not the universe.
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#278 2012-05-13 20:34:49
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Eden wrote:
To suggest that the universe is in disorder, and that your mind is more orderly than the universe itself, is not just partial delusion....it is total delusion.
Anybody said such a thing sir?
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#279 2012-05-13 20:36:22
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Jayaraj wrote:
Eden wrote:
Jayaraj wrote:
The view that the society is in disorder is a form of self deception? Dear friend, there are wars going on inthe world! Can that be said to be any kind of order?
It is perfect order in fact. It is the height of delusion to suggest that the universe is in disorder.
Universe you say. I said the society, not the universe.
society is separate from the universe? rofl. poor poor fragmented jayaraj.
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#280 2012-05-13 20:38:31
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Jayaraj wrote:
Eden wrote:
To suggest that the universe is in disorder, and that your mind is more orderly than the universe itself, is not just partial delusion....it is total delusion.
Anybody said such a thing sir?
Even more delusional than that is to separate the universe into parts and say some parts are in disorder, and the rest is in order. hilarious!
this is like pre-school stuff, i mean c'mon already.
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#281 2012-05-13 20:44:07
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maybe the whole planet is in disorder. or maybe this solar system is in disorder amidst an orderly universe. gosh....someone should look into that. I mean, any solar system that spawns egocentric brains must be pretty f***** up.
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#282 2012-05-13 20:47:49
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I smell a BBC documentary in the making. "Our F***** Up Solar System"
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#283 2012-05-13 20:48:54
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Eden wrote:
Jayaraj wrote:
Eden wrote:
It is perfect order in fact. It is the height of delusion to suggest that the universe is in disorder.Universe you say. I said the society, not the universe.
society is separate from the universe? rofl. poor poor fragmented jayaraj.
Of course society is not the universe!! I'll say it anywhere. Society is just man made. The work of thought which has not understood the ways of the universe.What are you saying sir?
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#284 2012-05-13 20:52:41
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I smell a BBC documentary in the making. "Our F***** Up Solar System"
You are all worked up my friend. Go, take rest before you come up with anymore of this stuff!
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#285 2012-05-13 20:56:46
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Jayaraj wrote:
society is not the universe!! I'll say it anywhere. Society is just man made. The work of thought which has not understood the ways of the universe.What are you saying sir?
Man is not the universe? Poor poor jayaraj...still not at square one.
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#286 2012-05-13 21:05:40
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Maybe tree can help this poor chap out.
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#287 2012-05-13 21:32:33
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Jayaraj wrote:
The view that the society is in disorder is a form of self deception? Dear friend, there are wars going on inthe world! Can that be said to be any kind of order?
I guess we are getting to the same subject in a round-about way that I was asking you about the other day when I called you on the method and intention in giving advice to SDS as to how to help his cousin's suffering.
I understand your point of view, let's say I accept it and agree, yes there is great suffering, disorder etc. I do agree, I'm not pretending.
okay, so what do you personally propose to do about it and what are you doing about it?
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#288 2012-05-13 21:44:46
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Jayaraj wrote:
The view that the society is in disorder is a form of self deception? Dear friend, there are wars going on inthe world! Can that be said to be any kind of order?
Where the ego is in operation / misunderstood, there is disorder. Although, it may be comforting to think that everything is just OK as it is....
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#289 2012-05-13 21:47:21
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The most effective cure for suffering is suffering.
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#290 2012-05-13 21:48:23
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beans wrote:
Jayaraj wrote:
The view that the society is in disorder is a form of self deception? Dear friend, there are wars going on inthe world! Can that be said to be any kind of order?
Where the ego is in operation / misunderstood, there is disorder. Although, it may be comforting to think that everything is just OK as it is....
Do infants have an ego?
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#291 2012-05-13 21:48:44
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Mankind has been suffering for thousands of years...
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#292 2012-05-13 21:51:26
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Eden wrote:
beans wrote:
Jayaraj wrote:
The view that the society is in disorder is a form of self deception? Dear friend, there are wars going on inthe world! Can that be said to be any kind of order?
Where the ego is in operation / misunderstood, there is disorder. Although, it may be comforting to think that everything is just OK as it is....
Do infants have an ego?
Anything's possible.
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#293 2012-05-13 22:04:47
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beans wrote:
Eden wrote:
beans wrote:
Where the ego is in operation / misunderstood, there is disorder. Although, it may be comforting to think that everything is just OK as it is....Do infants have an ego?
Anything's possible.
Yet the possibility of you saying something intelligent is still zero.
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#294 2012-05-13 22:07:39
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Eden wrote:
beans wrote:
Eden wrote:
Do infants have an ego?Anything's possible.
Yet the possibility of you saying something intelligent is still zero.
Ah, grasshopper, it takes intelligence to see intelligence.
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#295 2012-05-13 22:14:26
#296 2012-05-13 22:15:57
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Glad I could help.
Well, not exactly, grasshopper. Beam me up Scotty....
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#297 2012-05-13 22:24:46
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Hmmm....still zero.
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#298 2012-05-13 22:33:41
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Hmmm....still zero.
Don't give up on yourself, grasshopper.
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#299 2012-05-13 22:35:50
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beans wrote:
Jayaraj wrote:
The view that the society is in disorder is a form of self deception? Dear friend, there are wars going on inthe world! Can that be said to be any kind of order?
Where the ego is in operation / misunderstood, there is disorder. Although, it may be comforting to think that everything is just OK as it is....
Comforting, and/or convenient.
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