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#51 2012-04-30 06:56:51
Re: How to break THE system of thought?
Ekanta wrote:
If I am looking for some one I will post here...BUT I AM NOT,
And my love is universal
Right!
Atta girl.
Just remember, nothing but disturbance
Many kisses.
γνῶθι σεαυτόν (nosce te ipsum)
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#52 2012-04-30 09:37:31
Re: How to break THE system of thought?
natura wrote:
Ekanta wrote:
If I am looking for some one I will post here...BUT I AM NOT,
And my love is universalRight!
Atta girl.
Just remember, nothing but disturbance
Many kisses.
Yes, you are right
Kisses
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#53 2012-04-30 09:39:07
Re: How to break THE system of thought?
natura wrote:
RJ wrote:
tree wrote:
desire and fear are onebecause they both seek to escape from what is.
…and when they are ‘what is’, there is no way to escape anymore…
Ok, being in the present
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#54 2012-04-30 10:02:58
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Re: How to break THE system of thought?
society conditions our desires and fears just like pavlov conditoned his dog, all rather petty, yet this verbal struggle with our social conditioning need not consume all of our energies, there is more to life
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#55 2012-04-30 10:32:36
Re: How to break THE system of thought?
tree wrote:
society conditions our desires and fears just like pavlov conditoned his dog, all rather petty, yet this verbal struggle with our social conditioning need not consume all of our energies, there is more to life
The silence, the movement, music, people, animal, friends, inimigs,food, flowers, tree, waterfall,plane, tartur...
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#56 2012-04-30 12:26:55
Re: How to break THE system of thought?
The amount of fear is absurd
I am in a state of let go, a state does not mean too easy, opposite
Aloneness, just my self
And still a hope of creation, still hope
Does everyone needs a repetition rotine to fell save
Fear...but not coming back...
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#57 2012-04-30 12:36:10
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Re: How to break THE system of thought?
Ekanta wrote:
The amount of fear is absurd
I am in a state of let go, a state does not mean too easy, opposite
Aloneness, just my self
And still a hope of creation, still hope
Does everyone needs a repetition rotine to fell save
Fear...but not coming back...
yes, psychological fear is absurd when we realize it is all social conditioning and meanlngless, lay down on the earth and let all your fears drain into it, forgive yourself and all
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#59 2012-04-30 12:58:15
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Re: How to break THE system of thought?
with you in truth and peace, Ekanta
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#61 2012-04-30 15:45:25
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Re: How to break THE system of thought?
tree wrote:
RJ wrote:
tree wrote:
where the body is completely relaxed it has no use for thought
this you already know"aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrgggggggggggggggggghhhhhhhhh!!!"
This is the title of my soon to be released book, subtitled
it's an autobiographical account of 32 years of the utmost dedication to 'trying' to relaxone see's what's involved
yes, standing up on one's own shoulders would be simpler
oh well
on the other hand the occasional surrender,
exhaustion-borne or effortless
lovingly laughs at such lamenting
and my wailing turns to a shout that I would shake at the very nebula themselves!
truly, you cannot go to it, and it must come to you.
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#63 2012-04-30 17:52:18
Re: How to break THE system of thought?
Ekanta wrote:
natura wrote:
RJ wrote:
because they both seek to escape from what is.…and when they are ‘what is’, there is no way to escape anymore…
Ok, being in the present
Very good grip, my dear
γνῶθι σεαυτόν (nosce te ipsum)
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#65 2012-04-30 18:06:58
Re: How to break THE system of thought?
natura wrote:
…on the other hand, I’m thinking…
What is the life without a life-partner?
Maybe you should reconsider that moment
Does we have to reconsider every think, all the time
All change, nothing remen the same
And that is the mistery
We can be accommodated
But the new is always noking
We do not even need, maybe
Alone, we are always alone
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#66 2012-04-30 20:26:51
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Re: How to break THE system of thought?
yes, and to be so is to change brain state
we are innately social animals
so to be psychologically alone goes against our instincts
walk on, there is nothing to fear
(rest too)
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#68 2012-04-30 23:50:28
Re: How to break THE system of thought?
tree wrote:
…walk on, there is nothing to fear
(rest too)
Looks like a peculiar suggestion, doesn’t it?
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#69 2012-04-30 23:55:19
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Re: How to break THE system of thought?
natura wrote:
tree wrote:
…walk on, there is nothing to fear
(rest too)Looks like a peculiar suggestion, doesn’t it?
nice spot for a picnic
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#70 2012-05-01 00:09:32
Re: How to break THE system of thought?
Oh...nice..and a bit scare, is it, but beautifull
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#71 2012-05-01 00:10:34
Re: How to break THE system of thought?
natura wrote:
tree wrote:
…walk on, there is nothing to fear
(rest too)Looks like a peculiar suggestion, doesn’t it?
Yes, jump and suicide...
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#72 2012-05-01 00:32:12
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Re: How to break THE system of thought?
Ekanta wrote:
natura wrote:
tree wrote:
…walk on, there is nothing to fear
(rest too)Looks like a peculiar suggestion, doesn’t it?
Yes, jump and suicide...
any other ideas?
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#73 2012-05-01 00:38:40
Re: How to break THE system of thought?
tree wrote:
Ekanta wrote:
natura wrote:
tree wrote:
…walk on, there is nothing to fear
(rest too)Looks like a peculiar suggestion, doesn’t it?
Yes, jump and suicide...
any other ideas?
Fly, parashuda
My god
You see
I think the picnic is better, is it?
Such intense therapy this forum
No suicide no Ekanta...
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#74 2012-05-01 00:40:24
Re: How to break THE system of thought?
Ekanta wrote:
tree wrote:
Ekanta wrote:
Yes, jump and suicide...any other ideas?
Fly, parashuda
My god
You see
I think the picnic is better, is it?
Such intense therapy this forum
No suicide no Ekanta...
Oh, Iam having insonia, did not sleep last night
But the place is beautifull
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#75 2012-05-01 00:47:58
Re: How to break THE system of thought?
tree wrote:
natura wrote:
tree wrote:
…walk on, there is nothing to fear
(rest too)Looks like a peculiar suggestion, doesn’t it?
nice spot for a picnic
I do not want to pick Ike there
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