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#126 2012-04-20 13:06:30
- BobD
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Re: the experiment
natura wrote:
OK, Bob,
BobD wrote:
...just a little light hearted fun that Kirsten's post brought out of me...at the expense of some new age ideas. I don't take any of this too seriously...except when the ego is at stake. lol
I know your age, Bob, but still, no idea could ever be new, for no age, could it.
Well, ego is a criterion for everything, I would definitely agree with you on this and it’s serious, indeed.
Its only serious when one is stuck in it. Unfortunately...most of the world is stuck in it all the time. Thankfully...most of the time I am not.
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#127 2012-04-20 15:29:35
- RJ
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Re: the experiment
BobD wrote:
natura wrote:
OK, Bob,
BobD wrote:
...just a little light hearted fun that Kirsten's post brought out of me...at the expense of some new age ideas. I don't take any of this too seriously...except when the ego is at stake. lol
I know your age, Bob, but still, no idea could ever be new, for no age, could it.
Well, ego is a criterion for everything, I would definitely agree with you on this and it’s serious, indeed.Its only serious when one is stuck in it. Unfortunately...most of the world is stuck in it all the time. Thankfully...most of the time I am not.
congratulations to you too BobbyDee
so, what are you doing with your unstuckness?
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#128 2012-04-20 17:56:48
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freewheeling
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#129 2012-04-20 18:06:23
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(moving from one moment to the next)
{not getting stuck in any one of them}
[think of lighting each up in its turn]
and tuning off the light when you leave...
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#130 2012-04-20 18:32:29
- RJ
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kirsten wrote:
freewheeling
no your not
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#131 2012-04-20 18:34:01
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wilbro99 wrote:
(moving from one moment to the next)
{not getting stuck in any one of them}
[think of lighting each up in its turn]
and tuning off the light when you leave...
that's very poetic of you Willy
you keep the 60's inner child in brackets?
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#132 2012-04-20 19:30:47
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BobD wrote:
Its only serious when one is stuck in it. Unfortunately...most of the world is stuck in it all the time.
Sure, as we can see it everywhere.
Not very much signs it will be better in the next future.
Krishnamurti foundations and organizations are making many things to disseminate the Krishnamurti’s teaching, but disseminating is not yet harvesting as studding of the teaching is by far not yet understanding of it.
BobD wrote:
Thankfully...most of the time I am not.
That’s a serious claim, Bob. It’s not news for me, or course, knowing you for long time.
I understand it might be awkward for you to discuss it properly here ‘cose those monkey-painters and weed-healers stay ironical to your message. Except Willy, maybe. Willy is half-serious as he often is.
Well, anyway, I remember you were about to organize your own spiritual group, Bob. What can you say about your experience in regard of that one now?
I’m suspicious you’ve missed your target, but yet, what’s up about it?
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#133 2012-04-20 19:44:32
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Well, RJ, you are asking a personal sort of question, and I, having not one wee dram of hubris will fill you in about the '60's
I really came out of the beat generation. I dumped engineering in '58, and that because it was all cold war stuff, lived in Venice Beach for almost two years before I became unbeat, and popped out as a social worker.
I was too old to be a hippy per se, but they evolved from the likes of me.
Hi natura, I am never serious...
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#134 2012-04-20 19:51:18
#135 2012-04-20 20:02:51
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wilbro99 wrote:
Well, RJ, you are asking a personal sort of question, and I, having not one wee dram of hubris will fill you in about the '60's
I really came out of the beat generation. I dumped engineering in '58, and that because it was all cold war stuff, lived in Venice Beach for almost two years before I became unbeat, and popped out as a social worker.
I was too old to be a hippy per se, but they evolved from the likes of me.
Hi natura, I am never serious...
Hi back, Willy.
Don’t try duping me, wily Willy.
I know a thing or two about cold-war-stuff, too… as well as hippy business.
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#136 2012-04-20 20:11:17
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I still do not know why you guys down there don't fall off the globe.
Has to be a spell of some sort, right?
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#137 2012-04-20 20:23:14
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we all stick to the globe due to centrifugal force..
don't you feel that willy ? whooooopeeeee
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#138 2012-04-20 20:34:32
#139 2012-04-20 20:35:53
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wilbro99 wrote:
I still do not know why you guys down there don't fall off the globe.
Has to be a spell of some sort, right?
We don’t.
Our thoughts fall off our skulls only.
Has to be a spell, right. Aborigines have cast it on us as the history says if I understand it well, of course.
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#140 2012-04-20 20:42:37
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natura, is that why you guys cornered the Velcro market?
No wonder RJ seems stuck on himself.
Ho! Ho!
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#141 2012-04-20 20:47:48
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wilbro99 wrote:
natura, is that why you guys cornered the Velcro market?
Velcro market? Cornered?
That’s defamation, Willy. I’ve never done such thing.
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#142 2012-04-20 20:51:24
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patricia wrote:
They just draw it the wrong way. We are really at the top.
Hi Patricia, my dearest friend.
Why didn't you tell me that before I’d given that stupid answer?
How is Adelaide doing? Hasn’t been burned up, yet? Hasn’t been washed down into the sea by the rains?
Nice to meet you again, anyway.
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#143 2012-04-20 20:57:06
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kirsten wrote:
we all stick to the globe due to centrifugal force..
don't you feel that willy ? whooooopeeeee
You better stop painting and start studding physics, Kirsten.
There is something flagrantly wrong about your interpretation of possible effects from the Centrifugal Forces.
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#144 2012-04-20 21:46:46
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Ah, a chance to wonk.
There is a difference we measure as velocity. That velocity requires a mass to allow that difference to be measured. That velocity is measured with respect to a constant velocity, the velocity that allows all other velocities to be measured.
Let there be light, and by golly I can see that rock coming my way, and duck.
Now, let there be another difference be added to that first difference, a second differential, if you will, and measure it as acceleration. That second difference is measured in the period of a pendulum, and represents that added swing that keeps those poor peeps down under from exiting into space.
The shortest distance between any two points in that second difference is the measure of the curve of space that second difference creates.
The two opposing forces that describe that difference are necessary if that balance is to be retained over time.
Thus says the wonk…
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#145 2012-04-21 00:07:11
- BobD
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Re: the experiment
natura wrote:
BobD wrote:
Its only serious when one is stuck in it. Unfortunately...most of the world is stuck in it all the time.
Sure, as we can see it everywhere.
Not very much signs it will be better in the next future.
Krishnamurti foundations and organizations are making many things to disseminate the Krishnamurti’s teaching, but disseminating is not yet harvesting as studding of the teaching is by far not yet understanding of it.BobD wrote:
Thankfully...most of the time I am not.
That’s a serious claim, Bob. It’s not news for me, or course, knowing you for long time.
I understand it might be awkward for you to discuss it properly here ‘cose those monkey-painters and weed-healers stay ironical to your message. Except Willy, maybe. Willy is half-serious as he often is.
Well, anyway, I remember you were about to organize your own spiritual group, Bob. What can you say about your experience in regard of that one now?
I’m suspicious you’ve missed your target, but yet, what’s up about it?
Natura: Now I think I see what's going on. I believe you have me confused with BobM. I believe that he still posts on Kirstens site but am not sure. Although...I find the thought of me organizing my own spiritual group quite entertaining in a sadistc sort of way. LOL
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#146 2012-04-21 00:16:19
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BobD wrote:
natura wrote:
BobD wrote:
Its only serious when one is stuck in it. Unfortunately...most of the world is stuck in it all the time.
Sure, as we can see it everywhere.
Not very much signs it will be better in the next future.
Krishnamurti foundations and organizations are making many things to disseminate the Krishnamurti’s teaching, but disseminating is not yet harvesting as studding of the teaching is by far not yet understanding of it.BobD wrote:
Thankfully...most of the time I am not.
That’s a serious claim, Bob. It’s not news for me, or course, knowing you for long time.
I understand it might be awkward for you to discuss it properly here ‘cose those monkey-painters and weed-healers stay ironical to your message. Except Willy, maybe. Willy is half-serious as he often is.
Well, anyway, I remember you were about to organize your own spiritual group, Bob. What can you say about your experience in regard of that one now?
I’m suspicious you’ve missed your target, but yet, what’s up about it?Natura: Now I think I see what's going on. I believe you have me confused with BobM. I believe that he still posts on Kirstens site but am not sure. Although...I find the thought of me organizing my own spiritual group quite entertaining in a sadistc sort of way. LOL
Well, yes. I remember now, Bob-Michael.
Sorry, I caused that fooling around.
And thanks for information.
But in this case your claim becomes even more interesting.
Couldn’t you say some more about?
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#147 2012-04-21 00:17:51
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And in reality...the only thing that BobM and I have in common is that we are both called bob and we were both in AA at one time. Other than that, the similarities are on the same level as matter is to anti-matter. lol
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#148 2012-04-21 00:19:22
- BobD
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Re: the experiment
natura wrote:
BobD wrote:
natura wrote:
Sure, as we can see it everywhere.
Not very much signs it will be better in the next future.
Krishnamurti foundations and organizations are making many things to disseminate the Krishnamurti’s teaching, but disseminating is not yet harvesting as studding of the teaching is by far not yet understanding of it.
That’s a serious claim, Bob. It’s not news for me, or course, knowing you for long time.
I understand it might be awkward for you to discuss it properly here ‘cose those monkey-painters and weed-healers stay ironical to your message. Except Willy, maybe. Willy is half-serious as he often is.
Well, anyway, I remember you were about to organize your own spiritual group, Bob. What can you say about your experience in regard of that one now?
I’m suspicious you’ve missed your target, but yet, what’s up about it?Natura: Now I think I see what's going on. I believe you have me confused with BobM. I believe that he still posts on Kirstens site but am not sure. Although...I find the thought of me organizing my own spiritual group quite entertaining in a sadistc sort of way. LOL
Well, yes. I remember now, Bob-Michael.
Sorry, I caused that fooling around.
And thanks for information.
But in this case your claim becomes even more interesting.
Couldn’t you say some more about?
Which claim are you referring to?
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#149 2012-04-21 00:35:51
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My apologies. The claim about not being stuck in the ego most of the time I am assuming.
I guess what I mean by that is simply that most of the time, I don't take myself too seriously. And usually am not too concerned about the state of the world as it relates to the "self" interests. Every now and then though...I do attach to the egotistical nature of my unenlightened being. Although...I do understand the subjective nature of the traps I am capable of falling into on occasion.
Hell...I don't even know if that makes any sense. Sometimes I wish I had the "wonk" factor. LOL
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#150 2012-04-21 01:47:09
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Hell's bells, BobD, I can teach you to wonk.
Find the most basic difference you can find and let it create differences for you...
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