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#701 2012-04-06 15:05:39

pearl
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Re: What is patience?

beans wrote:

Indeed, it is all a small affair. Why are you wasting your time with small affairs?

Beany, did I not say you and eden have the same mentality and say the exact same things, but you say he's not your type, but everything you two have been saying has been pretty much the same.  You guys should talk, and you never know you might discover a great chemistry and hidden passion. :-)

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#702 2012-04-06 15:18:37

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Re: What is patience?

bruce sean wrote:

Eden wrote:

bruce sean wrote:

It takes one split-second!

Pretty much.  No 'getting to know someone' is necessary, is it?  Surely when you meet a girl, you know within a few seconds if it is there or not.

Is there what? We were talking of compassion, which has nothing to do with a particular girl, not of a physical attraction between two bodies, because there is no attraction between two minds-that is just bogus.

  The attraction is there, it's nothing spectacular, it's a small affair: a suitable female shows up in bruce's life-(in response to your other post, the big bruce is just as shallow as the little bruce)-and does that change anything? Not at all, it's still a small affair. If something happens, fine, if not, not. I usually make sure she knows what she's getting into, I don't want her to have any surprises later, and sex for its own purpose is out of the question for me.
  And with surprises gone, she will, too!!!

If I ever felt it was going to be an ordinary, small affair and sensed fear, I'd simply stop and never take another step in that direction not because I expect something grand but because I rather be alone than hook up with people who I do not trust completely, totally to meet me with the same level of intensity and understanding even if it were friends, the reason why I have very few good freinds but they're simply awesome folks.  Any kind of limitation doesn't work out for me. Have always had this way about me that settles for nothing less thasn unlimited, unconditional freedom, love, in all my relationships, be it friends or family.   Even 'my' work has to have an unlimited potential to it, or else I lose interest quickly.  Not saying you must do as me, just being honest.

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#703 2012-04-06 16:30:16

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Re: What is patience?

pearl wrote:

If I ever felt it was going to be an ordinary, small affair and sensed fear, I'd simply stop and never take another step in that direction

Well, your senses seem to be clogged, as everything bruce engages in is a small affair.  You've said so many times yourself.

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#704 2012-04-09 01:57:06

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Re: What is patience?

pearl wrote:

bruce sean wrote:

Eden wrote:


Pretty much.  No 'getting to know someone' is necessary, is it?  Surely when you meet a girl, you know within a few seconds if it is there or not.

Is there what? We were talking of compassion, which has nothing to do with a particular girl, not of a physical attraction between two bodies, because there is no attraction between two minds-that is just bogus.

  The attraction is there, it's nothing spectacular, it's a small affair: a suitable female shows up in bruce's life-(in response to your other post, the big bruce is just as shallow as the little bruce)-and does that change anything? Not at all, it's still a small affair. If something happens, fine, if not, not. I usually make sure she knows what she's getting into, I don't want her to have any surprises later, and sex for its own purpose is out of the question for me.
  And with surprises gone, she will, too!!!

If I ever felt it was going to be an ordinary, small affair and sensed fear, I'd simply stop and never take another step in that direction not because I expect something grand but because I rather be alone than hook up with people who I do not trust completely, totally to meet me with the same level of intensity and understanding even if it were friends, the reason why I have very few good freinds but they're simply awesome folks.  Any kind of limitation doesn't work out for me. Have always had this way about me that settles for nothing less thasn unlimited, unconditional freedom, love, in all my relationships, be it friends or family.   Even 'my' work has to have an unlimited potential to it, or else I lose interest quickly.  Not saying you must do as me, just being honest.

But I DIDN'T  sense fear: I said that, look back and you will see. Otherwise, no attraction was possible. Some faces don't readily display fear, right off the bat.

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#705 2012-04-09 02:02:01

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Re: What is patience?

bruce sean wrote:

pearl wrote:

bruce sean wrote:


Is there what? We were talking of compassion, which has nothing to do with a particular girl, not of a physical attraction between two bodies, because there is no attraction between two minds-that is just bogus.

  The attraction is there, it's nothing spectacular, it's a small affair: a suitable female shows up in bruce's life-(in response to your other post, the big bruce is just as shallow as the little bruce)-and does that change anything? Not at all, it's still a small affair. If something happens, fine, if not, not. I usually make sure she knows what she's getting into, I don't want her to have any surprises later, and sex for its own purpose is out of the question for me.
  And with surprises gone, she will, too!!!

If I ever felt it was going to be an ordinary, small affair and sensed fear, I'd simply stop and never take another step in that direction not because I expect something grand but because I rather be alone than hook up with people who I do not trust completely, totally to meet me with the same level of intensity and understanding even if it were friends, the reason why I have very few good freinds but they're simply awesome folks.  Any kind of limitation doesn't work out for me. Have always had this way about me that settles for nothing less thasn unlimited, unconditional freedom, love, in all my relationships, be it friends or family.   Even 'my' work has to have an unlimited potential to it, or else I lose interest quickly.  Not saying you must do as me, just being honest.

But I DIDN'T  sense fear: I said that, look back and you will see. Otherwise, no attraction was possible. Some faces don't readily display fear, right off the bat.

You did say, "sexy,fearful".  But even if she is not fearful, you are!  The reason why you playing the game.

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#706 2012-04-09 02:02:30

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Re: What is patience?

hermann wrote:

bruce sean wrote:

hermann wrote:

The unknown may well extend to not knowing what looking around means.

NOT when looking around is already in place!

On the contrary, looking implies not knowing.

Surely, this is illogical: not knowing what looking means how can one say they're looking already?! The only honest thing one can say, in the absence of any meaning for 'looking', is that they might be looking, or they might be not. That's the only thing.

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#707 2012-04-09 02:03:56

bruce sean
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Re: What is patience?

pearl wrote:

bruce sean wrote:

pearl wrote:


If I ever felt it was going to be an ordinary, small affair and sensed fear, I'd simply stop and never take another step in that direction not because I expect something grand but because I rather be alone than hook up with people who I do not trust completely, totally to meet me with the same level of intensity and understanding even if it were friends, the reason why I have very few good freinds but they're simply awesome folks.  Any kind of limitation doesn't work out for me. Have always had this way about me that settles for nothing less thasn unlimited, unconditional freedom, love, in all my relationships, be it friends or family.   Even 'my' work has to have an unlimited potential to it, or else I lose interest quickly.  Not saying you must do as me, just being honest.

But I DIDN'T  sense fear: I said that, look back and you will see. Otherwise, no attraction was possible. Some faces don't readily display fear, right off the bat.

You did say, "sexy,fearful".  But even if she is not fearful, you are!  The reason why you playing the game.

No, I did NOT say 'fearful'. Never. What game are you talking about? More imagery?

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#708 2012-04-09 02:09:23

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Re: What is patience?

Eden wrote:

bruce sean wrote:

The attraction is there, it's nothing spectacular, it's a small affair: a suitable female shows up in bruce's life-(in response to your other post, the big bruce is just as shallow as the little bruce)-and does that change anything? Not at all, it's still a small affair. If something happens, fine, if not, not. I usually make sure she knows what she's getting into, I don't want her to have any surprises later, and sex for its own purpose is out of the question for me.
  And with surprises gone, she will, too!!!

Indeed, it is all a small affair. Why are you wasting your time with small affairs?

You  misunderstood: I meant 'small affairs' in comparison with the big affair: what is the big affair? It has nothing to do with any human, and evertthing else IS small affair. Which doesn't mean small afairs don't have their place: they actually do.

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#709 2012-04-09 02:10:49

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Re: What is patience?

beans wrote:

Indeed, it is all a small affair. Why are you wasting your time with small affairs?

Nothing is wasted-never. It doesn't matter who the question was for, I've answered it for myself.

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#710 2012-04-09 02:15:14

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Re: What is patience?

bruce sean wrote:

pearl wrote:

bruce sean wrote:


But I DIDN'T  sense fear: I said that, look back and you will see. Otherwise, no attraction was possible. Some faces don't readily display fear, right off the bat.

You did say, "sexy,fearful".  But even if she is not fearful, you are!  The reason why you playing the game.

No, I did NOT say 'fearful'. Never. What game are you talking about? More imagery?

Wow, you never said, fearful??  You did, but I'm not going to waste my time looking up your posts.  I don't need to. With this it's only more clear that you're just another psuedo guru on the block, and no beautiful, genuine real female will ever come close to you in person.  Impossible.  I even doubt you're making up this whole story about an imaginary girl.  So carry on, but you lay all exposed to me no matter how much you now try to hide, not that I know your personal details but enough to see what an ugly fraud you are!  Nothing more to add.  Gotta say goodbye.

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#711 2012-04-09 02:17:47

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Re: What is patience?

Listen, madam, you are saying nothing rational about all this, at the moment. Imagination is never rational.

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#712 2012-04-09 02:25:02

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Re: What is patience?

Not imagination, sir, it is a fact.  You're a self deluded psuedo lying, denying the very things you yuorself said.  That shows no integrity at all.  Wake up!

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#713 2012-04-09 02:29:03

bruce sean
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Re: What is patience?

I said this: whatever happens, happens.

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#714 2012-04-09 09:10:20

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Re: What is patience?

bruce sean wrote:

hermann wrote:

bruce sean wrote:


NOT when looking around is already in place!

On the contrary, looking implies not knowing.

Surely, this is illogical: not knowing what looking means how can one say they're looking already?! The only honest thing one can say, in the absence of any meaning for 'looking', is that they might be looking, or they might be not. That's the only thing.

I don't think you can reduce it to simple logic.  Logic may help in exposing the false, and 'seeing the false for what it is' may reveal the truth, but logic by itself  can probably not bridge the gap from not seeing to seeing.  Not knowing is the prerequisite to looking.

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#715 2012-04-09 16:23:14

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Re: What is patience?

I didn't say logic solves everything. But in communication it is vital.

  See, when you say that not knowing is what looking is, as in your previous post, you are already offering a meaning, and then to say, as Tom did, that he doesn't know what it means,  it is a contradiction, an obvious one.
  One cannot have it both ways: offering a meaning, and asking what the meaning is. And if no meaning is offered, then all they can say is just that: I don't know whether I'm looking-let's find out!

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#716 2012-04-09 18:11:53

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Re: What is patience?

If I know that I know nothing, what do I know?

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#717 2012-04-09 18:16:25

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Re: What is patience?

hermann wrote:

If I know that I know nothing, what do I know?

The minute you know it isn't not knowing anymore-it is knowing!

  It is one thing to not know, and quite another to know that you don't know!

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#718 2012-04-09 18:46:29

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Re: What is patience?

You're not getting to the question.  This sort of logic bars the way.  It traps itself in its parameters.

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#719 2012-04-11 15:23:45

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Re: What is patience?

It's not just logic: one cannot be, psychologically, in both fields: known and unknown at the same time.

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#720 2012-04-11 16:22:44

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Re: What is patience?

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#721 2012-04-11 16:29:56

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Re: What is patience?

But you're treating it as mere logic.  Your 'two fields' are a division of logic only.

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#722 2012-04-11 16:36:32

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Re: What is patience?

bruce sean wrote:

Eden wrote:

bruce sean wrote:

The attraction is there, it's nothing spectacular, it's a small affair: a suitable female shows up in bruce's life-(in response to your other post, the big bruce is just as shallow as the little bruce)-and does that change anything? Not at all, it's still a small affair. If something happens, fine, if not, not. I usually make sure she knows what she's getting into, I don't want her to have any surprises later, and sex for its own purpose is out of the question for me.
  And with surprises gone, she will, too!!!

Indeed, it is all a small affair. Why are you wasting your time with small affairs?

You  misunderstood: I meant 'small affairs' in comparison with the big affair: what is the big affair? It has nothing to do with any human, and evertthing else IS small affair. Which doesn't mean small afairs don't have their place: they actually do.

Petty little minds have their place too.

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#723 2012-04-11 17:10:27

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Re: What is patience?

And their petty affairs.

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#724 2012-04-12 15:35:47

bruce sean
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Re: What is patience?

hermann wrote:

But you're treating it as mere logic.  Your 'two fields' are a division of logic only.

Logic? No, actually: when you know something the unknown field is gone, in actuality gone-the state of the mind, I mean.

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#725 2012-04-12 15:36:47

bruce sean
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Re: What is patience?

Eden wrote:

bruce sean wrote:

Eden wrote:

Indeed, it is all a small affair. Why are you wasting your time with small affairs?

You  misunderstood: I meant 'small affairs' in comparison with the big affair: what is the big affair? It has nothing to do with any human, and evertthing else IS small affair. Which doesn't mean small afairs don't have their place: they actually do.

Petty little minds have their place too.

All minds are petty.

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