KFA - Krishnamurti Foundation of America

What you are is violence, not love.

deep love

pearl wrote:

Yes, fear of feelings is the same as getting carried away by them and we can see both these extremities right here on this forum, both of which arise from fear.  But it depends what you mean when you say, "others can see it in us at times even when we can't see it in ourselves" as mostly the others are as lost and what they see might be their own projections about us.  Have you ever actually felt a deep sense of communion with anyone here where you both were able to at the same time see and feel into your own hearts and minds simultaneously and into each other?   Rarely.  Often times people are lost in ideas and knowledge and so missing out to meet with the other and feel and see together into each other and their own minds and hearts.   Anyways,  hope you din't mind me pondering along.  Thanks.

Oh and let me tell you I've seen how people's 'feelings' have a shade of tremendous violence to it, but ofcourse they're not true, deep feelings but sentiments and emotions coming out of a mind that is self deprived, lonely and or desparate due to not having gone deeply into itself and that's a vast majority.  What they call love is really a horrible thing, you see.

do you honestly feel that your statement above does not apply to you as well..?

Last edited by tree (2012-03-24 21:13:55)

You have not seen it in yourself all of this and you are asking someone else who is actually going into all this.  Evidently you felt offended by 'my' observations in the above post reacted to it.  Secondly then asking the wirter of the post if it applies to her as well, when you have never ever gone into anything deeply, things that K pointed out.  So your question is redundant as are your comments to the above post.

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Last edited by pearl (2012-03-24 21:19:23)

accept it and be done with it, it won't kill you...

tree wrote:

pearl wrote:

You have not seen it in yourself all of this and you are asking someone else who is actually going into all this.  Evidently you felt offended by 'my' observations in the above post reacted to it.  Secondly then asking the wirter of the post if it applies to her as well, when you have never ever gone into anything deeply, things that K pointed out.  So your question is redundant as are your comments to the above post.

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obviously you have not gone into it, only projected it, now is the time..

Where have you said anything of significance?  Only perpetual reactions and no observation.

(well, you're not kid)

tree wrote:

accept it and be done with it, it won't kill you...

pearl wrote:

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this

pearl wrote:

Yes, fear of feelings is the same as getting carried away by them and we can see both these extremities right here on this forum, both of which arise from fear.  But it depends what you mean when you say, "others can see it in us at times even when we can't see it in ourselves" as mostly the others are as lost and what they see might be their own projections about us.  Have you ever actually felt a deep sense of communion with anyone here where you both were able to at the same time see and feel into your own hearts and minds simultaneously and into each other?   Rarely.  Often times people are lost in ideas and knowledge and so missing out to meet with the other and feel and see together into each other and their own minds and hearts.   Anyways,  hope you din't mind me pondering along.  Thanks.

Oh and let me tell you I've seen how people's 'feelings' have a shade of tremendous violence to it, but ofcourse they're not true, deep feelings but sentiments and emotions coming out of a mind that is self deprived, lonely and or desparate due to not having gone deeply into itself and that's a vast majority.  What they call love is really a horrible thing, you see.

(it's obvious to everyone but you, sweets)

tree wrote:

(it's obvious to everyone but you, sweets)

This "everyone" to whom it is obvious is the illusion, and so are you,  and even if you insist and cling to this "everyone", I'm not a least bit concerned with what everyone thinks of me, but you are, obviously and so pretend to be love when what you are is actually violence, not love.

pearl wrote:

tree wrote:

(it's obvious to everyone but you, sweets)

This "everyone" to whom it is obvious is the illusion, and so are you,  and even if you insist and cling to this "everyone", I'm not a least bit concerned with what everyone thinks of me, but you are, obviously and so pretend to be love when what you are is actually violence, not love.

i've said these things and accept your wrath because i care about you and wish you the best

Last edited by tree (2012-03-24 21:46:32)

(i actually think you're a nice woman underneath all that neurosis)

Last edited by tree (2012-03-24 21:47:56)

hate on pearl, adios