KFA - Krishnamurti Foundation of America

According to immature minds like eden, those whom he can control, manipulate and put up with his childish, bullying tactics are insightful!   Totally cheesy and creepy guys such as eden, full of bs which I find to be ugly.  He has until now not a single insight that is original nor does he even understand how to speak to people, totally hijacked by thought and blissfully unaware of it.  Ha, talk about heights of insanity and ignorance.

Last edited by pearl (2012-03-06 21:54:14)

You remain totally oblivious to the bs you're full of.  Each day you denigrate yourself to the lowest of lowest integrity. Bugger off!

Last edited by pearl (2012-03-06 21:59:49)

Eden wrote:

sds wrote:

I did not say she is perfect or anything like this. I said she is very insightful. There is a big difference. I dont know any human being who is free of all patterns and shells.

Well, then she is clearly lacking insight into her own patterns and shells. Compared to the average joe, I would say she is indeed very insightful.  I have no problem saying that she is more insightful than 99.99% of the humans on this planet. Compared to someone who has deep insight into their own patterns and shells, she is very uninsightful. It's obvious from which vantage point you are looking.

Why do you continue to judge and rate people as insightful or not insightful, partial insight or deep insight, etc? Why make distinctions?

And why judge me as being uninsightful? I am not judging you. Seriously, I am asking....

I just read what interests me on here without making any judgements and if I can learn something from it, I do, and if not, I just move on...

sds wrote:

pearl wrote:

You remain totally oblivious to the bs you're full of.  Each day you denigrate yourself to the lowest of lowest integrity. Bugger off!

What I have noticed about him, is that, he does not change. He comes here with the same old patterns.... Never looks into them or changes them....

Indeed.  You see, he used to tell me that he is here only for pearl, and I never really understood what he meant nor did I pay much attention to it as it sounded rather childish, but now it's clear that he simply wants to control, own people and alas, he cannot fathom that he won't and can't, no matter how much longer he stays.  But when people would ask him why he was here, he would say to improve his language skills, two different explainations.  I wondered why he never told people the truth, that he really is here for something else.

I wonder if jealousy, if that, has anything to do with him and why he wants to control... This is only speculation on my part, but I think jealousy is something that might explain his actions better.

sds wrote:

I wonder if jealousy, if that, has anything to do with him and why he wants to control... This is only speculation on my part, but I think jealousy is something that might explain his actions better.

And sds, he has a girlfriend if he wants to control, own, possess.

I have never met anyone who is so rigid, so controlling, so stuck in his own patterns. I am close to giving up on him, I just dont think I can ever penetrate his shells and closure.

I have tried over and over again to meet him, to really communicate with him, but he will not have at it. He rather be in his own make believe league of those who are deeply insightful. And not come down to my level....

sds wrote:

I still look forward to hearing a little more about relationships, your latest relationship and opening up to love, if you have anything to share about that....

This is something I'd like to keep it between the two of us, sds. :-)  But, I can tell you about my ex.  I shared a most wonderful relationship with my ex and there was such love between us.  He was and still is a very unique man.  He loved me like no other and I did too, but somehow we couldn't make it work and so let go of each other, but we're great friends still... no jealousy, no residues, no hurts, no fights.  He also is the father to my child and a very fantastic one.  But don't get me wrong, we are not together now but still get along very well and remain great parents to our boy.  I feel very happy to see him with his girlfriend and want nothing but the best for him.  That's my relationship with the father of my child.  If you ever come to Montreal you could meet him and see for yourself.  But don't get me wrong, we're not in love.

edit- Btw, he was the only man I lived with under the same roof, travelled countries, listened to music, watched movies, had great many conversations and also have a wonderful child together.  I recall when I was pregnant in the later months I used to totally tired attimes and totally incapable of cooking food when hungry, and he would make me all my meals and bring it to me which was so kind, so nice of him.  A very caring, responsible man like no other I'd ever met.

Last edited by pearl (2012-03-06 22:47:36)

sds wrote:

I have never met anyone who is so rigid, so controlling, so stuck in his own patterns. I am close to giving up on him, I just dont think I can ever penetrate his shells and closure.

I have tried over and over again to meet him, to really communicate with him, but he will not have at it. He rather be in his own make believe league of those who are deeply insightful. And not come down to my level....

I hear ya.

pearl wrote:

sds wrote:

I still look forward to hearing a little more about relationships, your latest relationship and opening up to love, if you have anything to share about that....

This is something I'd like to keep it between the two of us, sds. :-)  But, I can tell you about my ex.  I shared a most wonderful relationship with my ex and there was such love between us.  He was and still is a very unique man.  He loved me like no other and I did too, but somehow we couldn't make it work and so let go of each other, but we're great friends still... no jealousy, no residues, no hurts, no fights.  He also is the father to my child and a very fantastic one.  But don't get me wrong, we are not together now but still get along very well and remain great parents to our boy.  I feel very happy to see him with his girlfriend and want nothing but the best for him.  That's my relationship with the father of my child.  If you ever come to Montreal you could meet him and see for yourself.  But don't get me wrong, we're not in love.

I got a feel for the wonderful relationship you had with your ex and only can imagine this love, this love that is not possessive or controlling and has no hurts or residues. A love that is willing to let go and not hold onto... So beautiful, thank you for sharing....

Yes, Pearl. I read the edit. I am truly awed in reading about the relationship you had and continue to have with your ex. This is what relationship is all about. And what love is all about...

Yes, he opened me up to many things, to music, to movies from all over the world...and was also the one who gave me a book of Krishnamurti which he had picked up on a footpath, while wandering the towns of India with which he had fallen in love.  He was not "into' Krishnamurti but read this book and passed it on to me saying, 'you should read this guy, he's kinda interesting" :-) which I read only after many months.  This is the past.

BobD wrote:

sds wrote:

Eden wrote: "Well I am sure there is a "person" underneath your shells somewhere.  But since you are in denial that you even have any, it's gonna be pretty tricky to navigate around them and through them don't ya think."

Dear Eden sir, please apply this same exact advice towards yourself. I think it applies directly to you too. What do you think?

It's not rocket science folks. The alledged shallowness that he so angrily talks about in others in order to get a rise out of them is simply a reflection of his own lack of depth. I would pity him, but that would be the biggest insult that I could give any human. I saw through him immediately and knew it would only be a matter of time before he publicly cracked.  That kind of blatant arrogance is the most obvious of facade's. He keeps it up because he has thrown all his chips on the table and he doesn't realize or doesn't care that everyone has called him on his bluff. One day maybe...he will become brave enough to show his hand. At that point...he may finally have some peace in his life. But until that time...it must be realized that, if I were him...I would probably act the same way.

You have a nice way of summarizing things Bob.

I do hope he is willing to talk to you one of these days. It seems he avoids you....