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#1 2010-05-24 03:14:37

Herbj
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Was Krishnamurti vegan or vegetarian?

He talked sometimes about not eating meat, and how it was so unnecessary.. But was he vegan?

Anyone know???????????????????? Just curious...


He obviously only ate when he was hungry, but did he eat dairy and eggs??

It may be difficult, in some parts of the world, including USA (believe it or not) with all its farmers markets (In certain rural farmers areas) to maintain a stricly vegan diet.. It ISNT easy... YOu have to get enout protien.. enough amino combinations, enough iron.. enough vitamins.. It isnt easy. And it may be slightly expensive.


Im just wondering if anyone knew.. whas he vegetarian (doesnt eat mean, fish insects etc.), or was he vegan (doesnt eat meat, dairy, unfertilized eggs, larvae etc.).

Its a good question, as i was looking to go vegetarian myself... its a good diet; but it may be hard to maintain a strait forward vegan lifestyle..

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#2 2010-05-24 04:54:41

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Re: Was Krishnamurti vegan or vegetarian?

K was a vegetarian. He did eat eggs.

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#3 2010-05-24 23:23:51

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Re: Was Krishnamurti vegan or vegetarian?

Right. If you can get a copy of Michael Krohnen's Kitchen Chronicles, you can see the menus he served K and the others. I'm not an expert, I don't think vegan was much of a thing at the time.

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#4 2010-05-25 13:57:59

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Re: Was Krishnamurti vegan or vegetarian?

Vegan or vegitarian has nothing to do with religion.But one who has deep concern for the world suffering,will be sesitive and there will be a change of heart.

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#5 2010-05-25 14:25:06

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Re: Was Krishnamurti vegan or vegetarian?

Herbj wrote:

He talked sometimes about not eating meat, and how it was so unnecessary.. But was he vegan?

Anyone know???????????????????? Just curious...


He obviously only ate when he was hungry, but did he eat dairy and eggs??

It may be difficult, in some parts of the world, including USA (believe it or not) with all its farmers markets (In certain rural farmers areas) to maintain a stricly vegan diet.. It ISNT easy... YOu have to get enout protien.. enough amino combinations, enough iron.. enough vitamins.. It isnt easy. And it may be slightly expensive.


Im just wondering if anyone knew.. whas he vegetarian (doesnt eat mean, fish insects etc.), or was he vegan (doesnt eat meat, dairy, unfertilized eggs, larvae etc.).

Its a good question, as i was looking to go vegetarian myself... its a good diet; but it may be hard to maintain a strait forward vegan lifestyle..

Any how vegitarian diet is a healthier diet.Many people are vegitarian because their  ancestors are vegitarian and Hindus of India too  want to be vegitarian on religious believes.Priests of temples are vegitarion because they cannot enter the  sanctumsanctorium if they touch meat.It is a racial custom too.People who are non vegitarian are also considered,low too.But in western countries many are converting to vegitarian dishes for health reasons.
Anyhow killing animals for food is disgusting.K did not much touch on being vegitarian bot off and on he spoke of it and of the cruety to animals.

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#6 2010-05-25 22:48:30

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Re: Was Krishnamurti vegan or vegetarian?

K did indicate that the ingrained and conditioned insensitivity of those who choose to eat meat is a barrier to any manner of change in the human brain occurring.

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#7 2010-05-26 10:16:00

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Re: Was Krishnamurti vegan or vegetarian?

Any how vegitarian diet is a healthier diet.Many people are vegitarian because their  ancestors are vegitarian and Hindus of India too  want to be vegitarian on religious believes.Priests of temples are vegitarion because they cannot enter the  sanctumsanctorium if they touch meat.It is a racial custom too.People who are non vegitarian are also considered,low too.But in western countries many are converting to vegitarian dishes for health reasons.
Anyhow killing animals for food is disgusting.K did not much touch on being vegitarian bot off and on he spoke of it and of the cruety to animals.

Really?? So hindus are vegitarians, and so much elivated than others? If killing is disgusting...can we torture animals for food??sad

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#8 2010-05-28 16:25:50

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Re: Was Krishnamurti vegan or vegetarian?

Hmmmm... I dont know... K said that it doesnt matter what you put in you mouth... As long as in moderation..

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#9 2010-05-28 16:37:53

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Re: Was Krishnamurti vegan or vegetarian?

Ok, thanks, Troy.. just superficially.. Ive been looking for that book for 6 years... Thnx again..

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#10 2010-05-28 16:54:41

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Re: Was Krishnamurti vegan or vegetarian?

Also, I have stuck to a vegan diet for almost 5 years... That is the reason why i questioned wether K was Vegan.... Its not easy... Most time its conducted wrong, calculated wrong and unhelahty. It is possible to be a healthy vegan.... But very difficult.

Its very difficult to do it on vegetables alone... Most of the time you need a daily vitamin supplement... Most of the Vegans, if youve noticed, are not healthy... You need a calcium supplement, a vitamin D supplement, an Iron supplement... at the least...

I used to eat peanuts, walnuts, almonds, cashews.....

Lost Vegans are only temporary vegans, and they wear out of it afte less than a year... less than 2 years at the most ( its just a fad)..

You can go on youtube and look up Vegans and see how unhealthy that lifestyle is... Just for YIF

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#11 2010-05-28 20:23:16

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Re: Was Krishnamurti vegan or vegetarian?

It is not difficult to live a healthy vegan life - but it does require great attention.

All the essential amino acids have to be incorporated in the diet, and also enough protein -  so nuts, legumes, and foods like tofu, miso and seitan are needed to support the diet of frults and vegetables.

It is challenging to eat out for the most part, unless one is lucky enough to find excellent vegan and vegetarian restaurants nearby. Japanese restaurants can always cater for vegans.

With diligent research and intelligence, anyone can live a very healthy life indeed as a vegan - more so than any other chosen diet. Health problems just fade away when a serious vegan diet is undertaken.

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#12 2010-05-28 21:22:41

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Re: Was Krishnamurti vegan or vegetarian?

It's a little known fact, but people who lived and worked with Krishnamurti are familiar with his fondness for the cheeseburgers at a certain burger joint in Ojai. Once or twice a week he'd call a cab and go down there and treat himself to a cheeseburger (he insisted on American cheese), a bag of fries, and he'd stuff his pockets with ketchup packets. When he returned nobody would say anything. It was all very hush-hush back then. But after his death, the old-timers would get together and regale themselves with stories like this.

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#13 2010-05-28 22:26:12

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Re: Was Krishnamurti vegan or vegetarian?

booda wrote:

It's a little known fact, but people who lived and worked with Krishnamurti are familiar with his fondness for the cheeseburgers at a certain burger joint in Ojai. Once or twice a week he'd call a cab and go down there and treat himself to a cheeseburger (he insisted on American cheese), a bag of fries, and he'd stuff his pockets with ketchup packets. When he returned nobody would say anything. It was all very hush-hush back then. But after his death, the old-timers would get together and regale themselves with stories like this.

What period of K's life was he eating burgers, do you know?

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#14 2010-05-29 00:04:20

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Re: Was Krishnamurti vegan or vegetarian?

Andrew wrote:

booda wrote:

It's a little known fact, but people who lived and worked with Krishnamurti are familiar with his fondness for the cheeseburgers at a certain burger joint in Ojai. Once or twice a week he'd call a cab and go down there and treat himself to a cheeseburger (he insisted on American cheese), a bag of fries, and he'd stuff his pockets with ketchup packets. When he returned nobody would say anything. It was all very hush-hush back then. But after his death, the old-timers would get together and regale themselves with stories like this.

What period of K's life was he eating burgers, do you know?

Around the time Bohm was there. They went out together sometimes. Bohm was big on deep-fried burritos, and he used to stash beef jerky in his coat pocket. His wife would get  furious when he and K slipped out for a bite, and there was Hell to pay when they got back.

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#15 2010-05-29 01:04:55

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Re: Was Krishnamurti vegan or vegetarian?

booda wrote:

Andrew wrote:

booda wrote:

It's a little known fact, but people who lived and worked with Krishnamurti are familiar with his fondness for the cheeseburgers at a certain burger joint in Ojai. Once or twice a week he'd call a cab and go down there and treat himself to a cheeseburger (he insisted on American cheese), a bag of fries, and he'd stuff his pockets with ketchup packets. When he returned nobody would say anything. It was all very hush-hush back then. But after his death, the old-timers would get together and regale themselves with stories like this.

What period of K's life was he eating burgers, do you know?

Around the time Bohm was there. They went out together sometimes. Bohm was big on deep-fried burritos, and he used to stash beef jerky in his coat pocket. His wife would get  furious when he and K slipped out for a bite, and there was Hell to pay when they got back.

Interesting.  I'd like to ask if you know a little bit more about K and Bohm's relationship.  This is off-topic of the thread, but what the heck?  I've heard rumors that K had an affair with Bohm's wife, and that this was a very key factor in K and Bohm's relationship deterioration.  I've tried to research it a bit but could not get to the historical facts of it.  Do you know whether this happened?

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#16 2010-05-29 02:59:49

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Re: Was Krishnamurti vegan or vegetarian?

I think already K felt he had gone as far as he could with Bohm in discussions - he said as much to Mary Zimbalist - and coincidentally Bohm heard the rumours about K's early relationship with Rosalind, (later - in 1991 - published in Radha Rajagopal Sloss' book) and Bohm chose to judge K for his past 'misdeeds'.

Don't cheeseburgers have meat in them? I doubt that K ever ate meat - he was raised and conditioned as a strict Brahmin. It may have made the meat-eaters around him happier to believe that he did however....... so hence those rumours.

I also question that K would have had an affair with Bohm's wife, but rather he copped Bohm's disapproval about his earlier reported triflings.

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#17 2010-05-29 04:13:07

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Re: Was Krishnamurti vegan or vegetarian?

My hunch is that booda is making up his 'facts' as he goes along as a deliberate taunt to those inclined to model themselves after k.

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#18 2010-05-29 06:01:34

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Re: Was Krishnamurti vegan or vegetarian?

I don't know about any "affairs" beyond what the Sloss book alleges, and I don't give much credence to the junk food stories I related, either. I say this because it's believed that the stories were propagated by the meat industry. Why, you might ask, would the meat industry want to spread scurrilous rumors about K? Well, way back in the twenties, before K was enlightened, he supposedly approached a hot dog vendor and said, "Make me one with everything", and because his enlightenment came shortly afterwards, the meat industry insisted that a hot dog was largely responsible for it. So, when K publicly denounced the eating of meat, the meat industry retaliated and started spreading rumors that K was a closet carnivore.

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#19 2010-05-29 16:46:24

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Re: Was Krishnamurti vegan or vegetarian?

booda wrote:

I don't know about any "affairs" beyond what the Sloss book alleges, and I don't give much credence to the junk food stories I related, either. I say this because it's believed that the stories were propagated by the meat industry. Why, you might ask, would the meat industry want to spread scurrilous rumors about K? Well, way back in the twenties, before K was enlightened, he supposedly approached a hot dog vendor and said, "Make me one with everything", and because his enlightenment came shortly afterwards, the meat industry insisted that a hot dog was largely responsible for it. So, when K publicly denounced the eating of meat, the meat industry retaliated and started spreading rumors that K was a closet carnivore.

I just want to point out that you presented the cheeseburger story as historical fact.  You are now saying that you don't give much credence to the story.  I suppose that this must be related the mask you were wearing at the time. 

"...It's a little known fact, but people who lived and worked with Krishnamurti are familiar with his fondness for the cheeseburgers at a certain burger joint in Ojai. Once or twice a week he'd call a cab and go down there and treat himself to a cheeseburger (he insisted on American cheese), a bag of fries, and he'd stuff his pockets with ketchup packets. When he returned nobody would say anything. It was all very hush-hush back then. But after his death, the old-timers would get together and regale themselves with stories like this."

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#20 2010-05-29 20:11:59

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Re: Was Krishnamurti vegan or vegetarian?

Leg-pulling is a fine art, and though I haven't mastered it, I'm reasonably competent, as your inability to feel your own leg being pulled attests. Hermann felt a faint tug and expressed his skepticism, but you jumped in with both feet.

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#21 2010-05-29 20:15:06

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Re: Was Krishnamurti vegan or vegetarian?

Herbj wrote:

Hmmmm... I dont know... K said that it doesnt matter what you put in you mouth... As long as in moderation..

"All things in moderation, including moderation"       Mark Twain

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#22 2010-05-30 00:15:50

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Re: Was Krishnamurti vegan or vegetarian?

It is not merely eating wrong food, but also eating the rght food and in right amount , he was concerned. Has any one come across K's comments on eating to the requirement of the body? Generally, all great men were small or limited eaters, even by the calorie requirement of the body.

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#23 2010-05-30 14:20:56

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Re: Was Krishnamurti vegan or vegetarian?

You can't be right, because if you were I'd be a genius.

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#24 2010-05-30 19:36:36

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Re: Was Krishnamurti vegan or vegetarian?

At least do you see the fact that worldwide,  most people eat more but less nutritious food, including those who can afford?

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#25 2010-05-30 19:50:51

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Re: Was Krishnamurti vegan or vegetarian?

ant wrote:

At least do you see the fact that worldwide,  most people eat more but less nutritious food, including those who can afford?

Markets are flooded with carbohydrates, largely responsible for obesity problem.

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