KFA - Krishnamurti Foundation of America

beans wrote:

everyone wrote:

I disagree that it begs the question what is going on with me . I rather would ask the question of what do you have to say about whether it is a factual or not to you and do you want me to balance it with some good things to please you about this time in the history of mankind?

As the person whom the question is begging, I can definitively say it is begged by those posts about the world situation to find out their reason :-) No, it's not a matter of balancing what you say with some "good news", it's about seeing that this may be a pattern, and if it is, is it draining energy from elsewhere.

everyone wrote:

That is an unusual question  from a woman that saw clearly as a young girl writing letters  that was seeing, and burnt out and stopped .respectfully What is up with you ?  :-)

I didn't say I was burned out by activism, per se, just that right at this moment I am feeling burned out in general. For the most part, I stopped activism, puppy mill protests etc a couple of years ago (at the ripe age of nearly 40) upon realizing it is just counter-activity and not the best use of energy right now. 

Now you...

I am sorry you are burned out in general . I love what I do so I have my reward there is no reason to tell anyone what I do other than teach the perils and traps inherent in all psychological beliefs and double standards, and point out conditioning  . You might say I see poisonous thought rather than I use it, dispense it,  or think with it except technically.I am simple minded, stubborn  like most of you . i persist in nurturing, inquiring, learning with  others, detecting science,exploring staying open myself . When i put on my Dano costume i am a brilliant light in the sky,  and Kirsten as well as Ken, or Tree,  puts up jokes about me and brings me back down to earth. To me immorality is ever new learning, ever a beginner  so there is no minding of what happens,  and no lack of humility when i see my own arrogance .  :-)

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awareness wrote:

everyone wrote:

beans wrote:

everyone wrote:

I disagree that it begs the question what is going on with me . I rather would ask the question of what do you have to say about whether it is a factual or not to you and do you want me to balance it with some good things to please you about this time in the history of mankind?

As the person whom the question is begging, I can definitively say it is begged by those posts about the world situation to find out their reason :-) No, it's not a matter of balancing what you say with some "good news", it's about seeing that this may be a pattern, and if it is, is it draining energy from elsewhere.


I didn't say I was burned out by activism, per se, just that right at this moment I am feeling burned out in general. For the most part, I stopped activism, puppy mill protests etc a couple of years ago (at the ripe age of nearly 40) upon realizing it is just counter-activity and not the best use of energy right now. 

Now you...

I am sorry you are burned out in general . I love what I do so I have my reward there is no reason to tell anyone what I do other than teach the perils and traps inherent in all psychological beliefs and double standards, and point out conditioning  . You might say I see poisonous thought rather than I use it, dispense it,  or think with it except technically.I am simple minded, stubborn  like most of you . i persist in nurturing, inquiring, learning with  others, detecting science,exploring staying open myself . When i put on my Dano costume i am a brilliant light in the sky,  and Kirsten as well as Ken, or Tree,  puts up jokes about me and brings me back down to earth. To me immorality is ever new learning, ever a beginner  so there is no minding of what happens,  and no lack of humility when i see my own arrogance .  :-)

so much nonsense at once is quite a remarkable performance

Two months ago I could not spell clever insulter . Now I is one named Awareness. :-)

and to be clear, i did not meant beans

beans wrote:

everyone wrote:

I am sorry you are burned out in general . I love what I do so I have my reward there is no reason to tell anyone what I do other than teach the perils and traps inherent in all psychological beliefs and double standards, and point out conditioning  . You might say I see poisonous thought rather than I use it, dispense it,  or think with it except technically.I am simple minded, stubborn  like most of you . i persist in nurturing, inquiring, learning with  others, detecting science,exploring staying open myself . When i put on my Dano costume i am a brilliant light in the sky,  and Kirsten as well as Ken, or Tree,  puts up jokes about me and brings me back down to earth. To me immorality is ever new learning, ever a beginner  so there is no minding of what happens,  and no lack of humility when i see my own arrogance .  :-)

All form ends/decomposes/changes, anything that can be perceived passes.... :-)

Yes in all cases even joy passes Beans so yes this to will pass. So  of that we can both see it and  be certain . I am quite certain you will find something you really love to do, maybe you are already picking up the essence of it,  and no energy will be wasted, and no energy from stress, will be needed . :-)

beans wrote:

Well, thanks everyone, but changing activities or other externalities is probably not the solution.

I will keep an eye out for this "Dano costume" - now am curious :-)

Tonight this day ends when you lay your head down to sleep . Tomorrow will be a new day . We'll see what happens  is all anyone can say or do . We'll see   :-)

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bruce sean wrote:

beans wrote:

bruce sean wrote:

Whose energy is it?

The point is that it is not owned by a person who believes him/herself to be a separate, controlling entity - even if that entity is overlaid with an image of Nobody.

Despite an image of nobody or of somebody, the entity does not exist: what are you talking about?? Show me one entity who you think is real.

Does anyone have a picture of Bruce I can borrow ? I understand the concept you have of being a nobody is true psychologically only, not true technically about you as far as being a mostly hairless animal who performs habitually like others in society entertaining himself named Bruce and dining himself, and taking himself to  movies other real animals invented for him, and acted in them for him and others to enjoy and to to watch who make a living doing that  . As far as us getting a handle on what you are saying it is our own lack or inability to understand or your own to explain yourself clearly . You bicker, eat do most  everything animals do,you seem to have  just changed your name or label? If nothings there how do you label it, theres nothing to label like an empty space .  i AM NOBODY is really a big self center  ?   We as others are not under you, or above you but there is no such thing as a universal truth that we are not animals made up of the same matter . Only a truth we are not our labels or images of ourselves, or our ideas, and conclusions and beliefs or virtually in control of every aspect of our lives . We are living entities trying to live adequately in the safety, and illusion of security, seeking the pleasure of memory, moving into the future as memory,  and failing to see we are  asleep or living mostly unaware self projected lives programmed by our society . Some of us are looking into that, and inquiring, and seeing newly what has happened generally to dividing, and following, and leading mankind trapped in psychological self delusions and neurosis, and other mental states .    :-)

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everyone wrote:

bruce sean wrote:

beans wrote:

The point is that it is not owned by a person who believes him/herself to be a separate, controlling entity - even if that entity is overlaid with an image of Nobody.

Despite an image of nobody or of somebody, the entity does not exist: what are you talking about?? Show me one entity who you think is real.

Does anyone have a picture of Bruce I can borrow ? I understand the concept you have of being a nobody is true psychologically only, not true technically about you as far as being a mostly hairless animal who performs habitually like others in society entertaining himself named Bruce and dining himself, and taking himself to  movies other real animals invented for him, and acted in them for him and others to enjoy and to to watch who make a living doing that  . As far as us getting a handle on what you are saying it is our own lack or inability to understand or your own to explain yourself clearly . You bicker, eat do most  everything animals do,you seem to have  just changed your name or label? If nothings there how do you label it, theres nothing to label like an empty space .  i AM NOBODY is really a big self center  ?   We as others are not under you, or above you but there is no such thing as a universal truth that we are not animals made up of the same matter . Only a truth we are not our labels or images of ourselves, or our ideas, and conclusions and beliefs or virtually in control of every aspect of our lives . We are living entities trying to live adequately in the safety, and illusion of security, seeking the pleasure of memory, moving into the future as memory,  and failing to see we are  asleep or living mostly unaware self projected lives programmed by our society . Some of us are looking into that, and inquiring, and seeing newly what has happened generally to dividing, and following, and leading mankind trapped in psychological self delusions and neurosis, and other mental states .    :-)

Yes sir, but me who? Who is behind the image that you see I project, the image of a nobody? Who is the projector? You haven't answered this.

Eden wrote:

There are no entities.  That is obvious.  What doesn't seem so obvious to you is that the source of all illusions(including the illusion of self) is the same source(or non-source) as that of rainbows and flowers and the spots on a leopard's back.

Obvious to whom what entity ? It is not obvious there are no individuals even if the masses represent the believer as the believed, and mostly imitate and conform, and live in memory . What created rainbows and flowers and the spots on a leopard's back only created a brain . Thought invented a conditioned tool,  it implanted in children's memories, that could play god running on a program, that can never create one rainbow, a brain a sunset, a leopard, one flower, or one spot but sure can fill itself up with hot air, and make war  . :-)

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everyone wrote:

Obvious to whom/what entity ?

...asks the fragmented mind.

Obvious to the only entity/non-entity there is, answers the One.

Eden wrote:

everyone wrote:

Thought invented a conditioned tool

And what invented thought?

This, the most relevant question of all still escapes you(or you are still running from it). Let's see if you will finally face it(not holding my breath)

Obviously Not God or  what created the brain, because if you think the same thing that created the magnificence of the cosmos, the order in nature, health, actually  invented superstitious thought and this divisive  chaotic disorder, and mess mankind invented on earth founded, and rooted in superstition, your sadly mistaken. :-)

everyone wrote:

Eden wrote:

everyone wrote:

Thought invented a conditioned tool

And what invented thought?

This, the most relevant question of all still escapes you(or you are still running from it). Let's see if you will finally face it(not holding my breath)

Obviously Not God or  what created the brain, because if you think the same thing that created the magnificence of the cosmos, the order in nature, health, actually  invented superstitious thought and this divisive  chaotic disorder, and mess mankind invented on earth founded, and rooted in superstition, your sadly mistaken. :-)

Are you aware of the law of transitivity? If A created B and B created C then A created C.

Now start with A is God, That which has no beginning, pure awareness, ...

Do you see that there is nothing separate from anything? And therefore that every moment is divine, however pleasant or unpleasant?

everyone wrote:

night wrote:

everyone wrote:

Obviously Not God or  what created the brain, because if you think the same thing that created the magnificence of the cosmos, the order in nature, health, actually  invented superstitious thought and this divisive  chaotic disorder, and mess mankind invented on earth founded, and rooted in superstition, your sadly mistaken. :-)

Are you aware of the law of transitivity? If A created B and B created C then A created C.

Now start with A is God, That which has no beginning, pure awareness, ...

Do you see that there is nothing separate from anything? And therefore that every moment is divine, however pleasant or unpleasant?

Wow JIhads are good . :-)

Good and bad, hmmm?

The taste of chocolate is also unworkable.