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#1 2012-06-21 17:49:28

farmer
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Is all technology an extension of fear?

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#2 2012-06-21 17:52:44

farmer
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Can mass communication via the internet originate in fear?

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#3 2012-06-21 17:54:17

Eden
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Re: technology

Is this a trivia question, or intellectual masturbation?

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#4 2012-06-21 17:59:42

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Re: technology

Not trivia eden . Just been looking at all of  the technology and its purpose in lives of people.

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#5 2012-06-21 18:11:09

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Re: technology

farmer wrote:

Is all technology an extension of fear?

Everything is the reaction of that which is at the core, fear.

  Technology was and is developed by people with various psychological problems-not wanting to go home to a nagging wife, they overworked in the lab and produced this or that gimmick.

  This is a reversal of priorities: everything should be abandoned until all the psychological problems are vanished. Then a lot of gimmicks will vanish, too, for a lot of them are quite useless.

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#6 2012-06-21 18:13:27

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Re: technology

farmer wrote:

Can mass communication via the internet originate in fear?

Most communication is useless anyway, which is why Facebook, Twitter and the rest are a joke, but one that makes big bucks for some greedy, careless beings, exploiting others just like them: hence, the 'fault' belongs to all involved.

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#7 2012-06-21 18:16:27

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Re: technology

do you really think that the wheel was invented because of fear?

so fear is time, therefore not existent as a fact, but as an illusion, which is the fact. extension means time, therefore not existant psychologically.

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#8 2012-06-22 05:47:55

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Re: technology

animals evolve and creating tools is coherent to that evolution, all for the benefit of survival of the specie, the specific traits can be seen as a tool too, the shape of a beak, the size of a tail, the working of an eye, and.. the working of the brain.
the human is able to calculate with thought, that's a natural tool, language developed, that's a natural tool too, and somewhere in that process the idea of identity, future, death, hence the psychological fear came in play.. naturally the technical tools are used in relation to this fear also.

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#9 2012-06-22 11:22:53

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farmer wrote:

Is all technology an extension of fear?

One thing is clear. It is fighting nature to survive.

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#10 2012-06-22 11:36:31

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Re: technology

fighting always ?
can be cooperation too

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#11 2012-06-22 12:12:24

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perhaps adapting is the word...

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#12 2012-06-22 12:40:23

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farmer, as K clearly demonstrated there is fear in any outer motive but that is really just part of the story, not all of it.  Awareness brings up a good point about the wheels development.  If this were a discussion away from a K forum it would likely be much easier to discuss rationally.  As it is, here there are many voices that only look at the fear and demonize it, not seeing the larger picture.

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#13 2012-06-22 17:51:01

bruce sean
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Re: technology

awareness wrote:

do you really think that the wheel was invented because of fear?

so fear is time, therefore not existent as a fact, but as an illusion, which is the fact. extension means time, therefore not existant psychologically.

Fear is not an illusion.

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#14 2012-06-22 17:54:16

awareness
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Re: technology

fear is time, is time a fact?

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#15 2012-06-22 17:55:43

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Re: technology

Is thought a fact? Be careful here!

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#16 2012-06-22 17:58:18

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Re: technology

bruce sean wrote:

Is thought a fact? Be careful here!

the psyche does not exist, therefore psychological thought does not exist

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#17 2012-06-22 18:02:28

bruce sean
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Re: technology

Now that's utopia!

  Obviously selfish thinking exists, factually, in most people's brains, reflected by their actions.

  So you must discover where in actuality lies the illusion. Good luck!

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#18 2012-06-22 18:07:55

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bruce sean wrote:

Now that's utopia!

  Obviously selfish thinking exists, factually, in most people's brains, reflected by their actions.

  So you must discover where in actuality lies the illusion. Good luck!

sorry bruce, but listening is in which there is the ending of thought, so the conclusion that there must be in other people is only a conclusion for example of the fact of wars, but only to talk about change, in which there is the ending of thought and not to change, would mean to talk about utopia, which lead to the conclusion that it is not possible, which is a blocking factor. if you say the whole mankind has to undergone change, so then perhaps you may be right here on that point.

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#19 2012-06-22 18:13:16

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Re: technology

Yes, thought exists.Brain cell function & so on. But what it creates-the notion of a 'me' is illusory.To us, till this is seen as illusory it is felt as real.

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#20 2012-06-22 18:17:40

Jayaraj
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Re: technology

kirsten wrote:

fighting always ?
can be cooperation too

Yes, adapting as Willy says. Cooperating within given unchangeables & making inroads I suppose?

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#21 2012-06-22 18:19:06

awareness
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Re: technology

yes of course, that was said before, so reality is not truth. so if bruce wish me good luck it indicates an unstability of mind and thats very pitty to see that.

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#22 2012-06-22 18:21:15

awareness
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Re: technology

might be that he hadnt a good day, so he has to overthink, what it means good luck.

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#23 2012-06-22 18:23:04

awareness
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Re: technology

you cannot talk about transformation of what is into which is and say thats utopia. it says a lot.

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#24 2012-06-22 19:16:36

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Re: technology

awareness? Are you aware that to think of a transformation creates a continuity, and that to think that undoes the relation you set up between what is and that which is.

Maybe that is what you were saying, but I could not follow it.

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#25 2012-06-22 19:17:42

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Re: technology

turn the page, please...

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