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Hi,
do you mind saying a little bit more about this 'time' which is to be slowed down.
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gaurishankar wrote:
How to slow time daily?
Accomplish less things, outwardly.
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according to K psycological time is important and he has mentioned how to end it. But all global problems are also due to acceleration -chronological time-. Nobody has time and everything must be done immediately. So we discovered how to fly and doing our best to shorten this time. We are exploiting our all natural resources as if we are having two planets. All crisis must be solved yesterday. If you say , you have time, means you are no worth. If you say you have no time, it means you are a valuable person.
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Ok, thx, I understand what you say so far. This thing which we call society has polluted not just the world, but the mind. Fortunately, as K points out the mind is not the whole of life, the mess cannot touch the core of our being so there is a way out. When it comes to slow down time I think Bruce is on the right track there, to engage less or as little as possible. Once ones own engagement is clear, perhaps it is possible to do something, but the extent of the problem is alarming.
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I am not talking for me. How can we convey this massage to the world? I know K.
Observer is observed or just look without thought etc. I do not want to be a leader. One can say, just start at oneself. There must some steps. Step by step is necessary in this world. If we can slow our time, we can perceive without time. We can not say do little to a banker.
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We can say give me my money back I'll do business with a small local bank? A bank not profiting on war, or printing money, and lending me paper, and charging me interest for the full value of it . Especially while they the mega banks print more paper money and dilute its value, by gambling on futures on wall streets all around the globe and repossessing peoples property, and homes . :-)
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gaurishankar wrote:
I am not talking for me. How can we convey this massage to the world? I know K.
Observer is observed or just look without thought etc. I do not want to be a leader. One can say, just start at oneself. There must some steps. Step by step is necessary in this world. If we can slow our time, we can perceive without time. We can not say do little to a banker.
As I see it, starting with oneself is a step, a step that's renewed or new each moment, "the first step and the last step," outside of time, not thinking and acting along the time continuum.
Let the banker question life for himself or herself. One can't force observation, interest, caring or compassion on anyone.
Life puts challenges and opportunities in one's way - that's relationship - and if there's awareness, the "right" step is taken, a drop of perfume, a ray of clarity, no matter what the circumstances. If the "wrong" step is taken out of inattention, and there's awareness of it, there's still learning from that, without looking back and forth along the time continuum, without judgment. When the demands of life unavoidably speed chronological time up, there can still be awareness without inner rebellion, inner division, self-pity or conflict.
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Huguette wrote:
gaurishankar wrote:
I am not talking for me. How can we convey this massage to the world? I know K.
Observer is observed or just look without thought etc. I do not want to be a leader. One can say, just start at oneself. There must some steps. Step by step is necessary in this world. If we can slow our time, we can perceive without time. We can not say do little to a banker.As I see it, starting with oneself is a step, a step that's renewed or new each moment, "the first step and the last step," outside of time, not thinking and acting along the time continuum.
Let the banker question life for himself or herself. One can't force observation, interest, caring or compassion on anyone.
Life puts challenges and opportunities in one's way - that's relationship - and if there's awareness, the "right" step is taken, a drop of perfume, a ray of clarity, no matter what the circumstances. If the "wrong" step is taken out of inattention, and there's awareness of it, there's still learning from that, without looking back and forth along the time continuum, without judgment. When the demands of life unavoidably speed chronological time up, there can still be awareness without inner rebellion, inner division, self-pity or conflict.
Everything in life we do every penny or dollar we spend, is a vote for something we support even if we say we don't, or talk about status quo and non action from thought, from idea, but not from seeing/acting in life . :-)
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gaurishankar wrote:
according to k...
What about according to you?
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I am following K since 50 years and now I am 70. According to me , i discover slowlyness of time. I say always I have enough time and try to share my time with others. I am in Germany & I have done a course " Natural Trainer" and go every Monday with Children in KG to Natur and walk or play in Natur. Natur helps a lot. Children are full of life in natur.
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You have more time because you're 70 now, and not too many obligations to fullfill.
But have you discovered the absence of time?
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I am not talking to have more time but to slow time. The absence of time is according to me quite different topic, if you mean maditation or mindfulness.
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Is preoccupation with something anything to do with having no time, so less time? Because if you are not preoccupied, that is you are attentive, then you can do more things,therefore it would appear you have slowed down time,have plenty of time, although what really happens is you have ceased to have sense of time.
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gaurishankar wrote:
I am not talking to have more time but to slow time. The absence of time is according to me quite different topic, if you mean maditation or mindfulness.
What do you mean by time? Physical time? Or your impression of time?
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So are you concerned with slowing down that time, the chronological time? Why?
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If the time is slow, i do not need words. Just wait & see.
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I are mixing things up again: make up your mind-you were talking about chronological time: now, as slow as that might get, it means nothing, in and of itself. I mean you can have all the time in the world and feel as miserable as the busiest person in the world.
Psychological time, if you want to talk about it, on the other hand, is a different matter...
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Have you noticed gaurishankar, how the days and years seem to pass more quickly as you get older?
The habit of thinking gets stronger the longer that you practice it. It is the waking sleep of thought which steals time.
There is a way of slowing time, but thought cannot slow it.
Have you never discovered how time may be slowed?
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Dear Bruce & Pitfall,
time is passing very fast daily. Yes i have discovered how to slow time and i enjoy it. For hurry i do not have time!
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Keep slowing time until it stops. Everything else is a distraction. Especially so many pointless words.
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Your suggestion seems rather pointless to me: you are pointing to a method, do this, whatever it is, repeatedly, and you will get that. There is no such thing, because 'that' is 'this'.
Once again, people who have nothing to say, do not see anything new, so rather than repeating the old they prefer to be quiet: but such silence is not silence, it is the a dull brain that enjoys such a mechanical silence, which can be achieved through music, drugs, practically through any 'toy'.
When the new is perceived-which is when time has actually stopped-there's plenty to say.
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gaurishankar wrote:
Dear Bruce & Pitfall,
time is passing very fast daily. Yes i have discovered how to slow time and i enjoy it. For hurry i do not have time!
You are caught up in a pattern, which you think will stop time. This doesn't happen gradually, but suddenly: there is either time or there isn't, at any given moment. So unless the pattern will stop, time won't end, either.
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Pay attention gaurishankar - THE GREAT TEACHER HAS SPOKEN!
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