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#51 2012-06-06 17:17:20
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Re: What makes thought vanish?
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That is still thought.ah, ok , transformation is still thought?
That is what I'm suggestion: that 'standstill' is not yet transformation.
ah, ok, and now?
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#52 2012-06-06 17:18:41
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Re: What makes thought vanish?
What is it that stops thought, and which is NOT thought?
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#53 2012-06-06 17:19:43
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What is it that stops thought, and which is NOT thought?
awareness
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#54 2012-06-06 17:21:47
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Re: What makes thought vanish?
Awareness is still related to thought, it requires a conscious direction.
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#55 2012-06-06 17:23:52
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Re: What makes thought vanish?
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Awareness is still related to thought, it requires a conscious direction.
NO, that is NOT right, sorry. awareness has no relationship to thought!!!
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#56 2012-06-06 17:27:08
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Re: What makes thought vanish?
Tradition and Revolution (Ocurrences: 547)
Awareness is non-verbal. Awareness has no relationship to thought.K
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#57 2012-06-06 17:30:41
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Re: What makes thought vanish?
More authority...The problem with authority is that you can often find both sides of a story, and then taking sides leads to division, and by then the fact is long gone. Look at it alone.
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#58 2012-06-06 17:31:47
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Re: What makes thought vanish?
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bruce sean wrote:
Awareness is still related to thought, it requires a conscious direction.
NO, that is NOT right, sorry. awareness has no relationship to thought!!!
It has an object, a direction, and so a center: thought is still there.
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#59 2012-06-06 17:40:07
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Re: What makes thought vanish?
bruce sean wrote:
awareness wrote:
bruce sean wrote:
Awareness is still related to thought, it requires a conscious direction.
NO, that is NOT right, sorry. awareness has no relationship to thought!!!
It has an object, a direction, and so a center: thought is still there.
no, sorry. awareness is NOT consciossness, it is in which there is the ending of consciossness. it is in which there is attention.
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#60 2012-06-06 17:45:29
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so it is the real not-knowing-state
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#61 2012-06-06 18:35:12
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Re: What makes thought vanish?
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bruce sean wrote:
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NO, that is NOT right, sorry. awareness has no relationship to thought!!!It has an object, a direction, and so a center: thought is still there.
no, sorry. awareness is NOT consciossness, it is in which there is the ending of consciossness. it is in which there is attention.
You are mixing them up. Attention has a center, too.
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#62 2012-06-06 18:37:10
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so it is the real not-knowing-state
But that is NOT awareness, NOR attention.
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#63 2012-06-06 18:44:54
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so it is the real not-knowing-state
But that is NOT awareness, NOR attention.
how can it be, if we are talking about something, to talk about something is not that something, its only a transfer-performance
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#64 2012-06-06 18:47:00
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I'm implying that it is beyond both.
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#65 2012-06-06 18:48:19
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ah, pure energy
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#66 2012-06-06 19:05:59
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So does that answer the question? Does that vanish thought?
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#67 2012-06-06 19:16:54
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Re: What makes thought vanish?
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ah, pure energy
all energy is pure.
gotta love these clever terms invented to keep duality alive. keep up the good work.
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#68 2012-06-06 19:18:15
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So does that answer the question? Does that vanish thought?
transformation is in which there is the ending of thought. thought as matter is limited, therefore a part in the whole. the part is in the whole. the nature of thought is its limitation in time. so the ending of time is timelessness, in which there is the ending of thought. thats transformation: negative - positive - negative, or negation - affirmative - negation, energy - matter - energy, all in one, others, but not in a dualistic view.
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#69 2012-06-06 19:29:04
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Re: What makes thought vanish?
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So does that answer the question? Does that vanish thought?
transformation is in which there is the ending of thought. thought as matter is limited, therefore a part in the whole. the part is in the whole. the nature of thought is its limitation in time. so the ending of time is timelessness, in which there is the ending of thought. thats transformation: negative - positive - negative, or negation - affirmative - negation, energy - matter - energy, all in one, others, but not in a dualistic view.
transformation has been going on forever, is going on, and will be going on forever. so what?
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#70 2012-06-06 19:30:36
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when the human overcomes the illusion of beliefs and ideas("thought") there are new challenges and new illusions to deal with. so what?
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#71 2012-06-06 19:32:36
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So does that answer the question? Does that vanish thought?
transformation is in which there is the ending of thought. thought as matter is limited, therefore a part in the whole. the part is in the whole. the nature of thought is its limitation in time. so the ending of time is timelessness, in which there is the ending of thought. thats transformation: negative - positive - negative, or negation - affirmative - negation, energy - matter - energy, all in one, others, but not in a dualistic view.
transformation has been going on forever, is going on, and will be going on forever. so what?
That is change. Transformation is something else.
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#72 2012-06-06 19:33:18
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Re: What makes thought vanish?
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That is change. Transformation is something else.
more fragmentation. more jibberish.
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#73 2012-06-06 19:34:04
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Re: What makes thought vanish?
awareness wrote:
bruce sean wrote:
So does that answer the question? Does that vanish thought?
transformation is in which there is the ending of thought. thought as matter is limited, therefore a part in the whole. the part is in the whole. the nature of thought is its limitation in time. so the ending of time is timelessness, in which there is the ending of thought. thats transformation: negative - positive - negative, or negation - affirmative - negation, energy - matter - energy, all in one, others, but not in a dualistic view.
If that is what vanish thought, not as a concept, but actually, then how does it happen? Does it happen directly? Is there contact between the two?
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#74 2012-06-06 19:35:19
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Re: What makes thought vanish?
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Is there contact between the two?
Hah. There is no "two" of anything to begin with, except in your imagination.
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#75 2012-06-06 19:35:26
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Re: What makes thought vanish?
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transformation is in which there is the ending of thought. thought as matter is limited, therefore a part in the whole. the part is in the whole. the nature of thought is its limitation in time. so the ending of time is timelessness, in which there is the ending of thought. thats transformation: negative - positive - negative, or negation - affirmative - negation, energy - matter - energy, all in one, others, but not in a dualistic view.transformation has been going on forever, is going on, and will be going on forever. so what?
That is change. Transformation is something else.
i use change and transformation as synonyma
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