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#51 2012-05-17 05:18:49

Eden
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Re: An insight into the thinker and thought...

Poor natura. If you pulled your head out of the sand for a second you would see that what I projected into the future is rather what is happening now...it is not some event that I predict to happen someday.  It is happening now and one can feel if it is just something that will die tomorrow, or if it is something more sustained. None of this of course you have a clue about, because you are totally lost in your head--a sandy head for that matter.

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#52 2012-05-17 05:47:15

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Re: An insight into the thinker and thought...

Eden wrote:

Poor natura. If you pulled your head out of the sand for a second you would see that what I projected into the future is rather what is happening now...it is not some event that I predict to happen someday.  It is happening now and one can feel if it is just something that will die tomorrow, or if it is something more sustained. None of this of course you have a clue about, because you are totally lost in your head--a sandy head for that matter.

Spare your time, my friend.

I told you, I'm currently not reading your messages. You may ignore the mines in return.

See you later.


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#53 2012-05-17 06:40:12

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Re: An insight into the thinker and thought...

natura wrote:

I told you, I'm currently not reading your messages. You may ignore the mines in return.

See you later.

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#54 2012-05-17 06:51:53

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Re: An insight into the thinker and thought...

Eden wrote:

natura wrote:

I told you, I'm currently not reading your messages. You may ignore the mines in return.

See you later.

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Sorry, what?


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#55 2012-05-17 06:52:56

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Re: An insight into the thinker and thought...

Teulada wrote:

pearl wrote:

If you're aware(not that you must be) I've been attacked by a group of the most limited minds on here, and often in groups, not just here, but in my own life off the forum as well, while I was still very young in chronologiacl age by religious fanatics and zealots.

Attacked ... well. I don't know what you mean by that. What works for me is to chalk off a nasty reply to people having a bad day; can you cut people some slack Pearl? Because that's compassion too you know? People do not always have to live up to Pearl's expectations and I have a feeling you think they do.

If you jump the gun just because you posted something and someone else asks you to clarify, then, yes, some people are bound to start feeling resentful and show it.

must rush now

take care

OK, the same pitiful, resentful Teulada on the prowl...poor lady.  Obviously pitiful folks like you do not know or have a clue as to what compassion is but surely do bark up lectures to others...take care and don't rush.  Go a little slow.

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#56 2012-05-17 06:54:29

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Re: An insight into the thinker and thought...

natura wrote:

pearl wrote:

natura wrote:

pearl wrote:

All your problems arise from the fact that you do not see clearly that the thinker is the thought, not seeing intellectually but factually with the whole of your mind, heart, brain and being.  If you do see this for yourself share your observations, insights

I cannot share any of my insights or observations. Impossible just because you already declared in advance all my problems.

Next times, maybe.

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... but keep the vulgarity out, if you can

Alright, I think I can; will do.


thanks, will think about

OK, great you that you think you can keep the vulgarity out.  Then we might(or not) have a dialogue together if not now, some time, anytime, don't know...  Take care, natura.

Sure thing, dear

love you so as you are

take care, too

The very same to ya, natura.  Love ya too.

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#57 2012-05-17 07:42:23

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Re: An insight into the thinker and thought...

pearl wrote:

Teulada wrote:

pearl wrote:

If you're aware(not that you must be) I've been attacked by a group of the most limited minds on here, and often in groups, not just here, but in my own life off the forum as well, while I was still very young in chronologiacl age by religious fanatics and zealots.

Attacked ... well. I don't know what you mean by that. What works for me is to chalk off a nasty reply to people having a bad day; can you cut people some slack Pearl? Because that's compassion too you know? People do not always have to live up to Pearl's expectations and I have a feeling you think they do.

If you jump the gun just because you posted something and someone else asks you to clarify, then, yes, some people are bound to start feeling resentful and show it.

must rush now

take care

OK, the same pitiful, resentful Teulada on the prowl...poor lady.  Obviously pitiful folks like you do not know or have a clue as to what compassion is but surely do bark up lectures to others...take care and don't rush.  Go a little slow.

Get your act together honey. Seriously. Time to do some serious growing up. And this includes getting a life *other than* the Internet.

see you around, or not, i guess

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#58 2012-05-17 07:51:39

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Re: An insight into the thinker and thought...

Teulada wrote:

pearl wrote:

Teulada wrote:


Attacked ... well. I don't know what you mean by that. What works for me is to chalk off a nasty reply to people having a bad day; can you cut people some slack Pearl? Because that's compassion too you know? People do not always have to live up to Pearl's expectations and I have a feeling you think they do.

If you jump the gun just because you posted something and someone else asks you to clarify, then, yes, some people are bound to start feeling resentful and show it.

must rush now

take care

OK, the same pitiful, resentful Teulada on the prowl...poor lady.  Obviously pitiful folks like you do not know or have a clue as to what compassion is but surely do bark up lectures to others...take care and don't rush.  Go a little slow.

Get your act together honey. Seriously. Time to do some serious growing up. And this includes getting a life *other than* the Internet.

see you around, or not, i guess

Woah, waoh! calm down you stupid, heartless bitch!   Enough of your spewing vitriol.  Don't know what the heck is your problem but keep it yourself.  I've tried to communicate with you genuinely many times but it seems you have issues and cannot control your foul mouth.  Take off and go and write somewhere else in other threads or forums. Jeez!

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#59 2012-05-17 07:54:30

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Re: An insight into the thinker and thought...

pearl wrote:

Teulada wrote:

pearl wrote:


OK, the same pitiful, resentful Teulada on the prowl...poor lady.  Obviously pitiful folks like you do not know or have a clue as to what compassion is but surely do bark up lectures to others...take care and don't rush.  Go a little slow.

Get your act together honey. Seriously. Time to do some serious growing up. And this includes getting a life *other than* the Internet.

see you around, or not, i guess

Woah, waoh! calm down you stupid, heartless bitch!   Enough of your spewing vitriol.  Don't know what the heck is your problem but keep it yourself.  I've tried to communicate with you genuinely many times but it seems you have issues and cannot control your foul mouth.  Take off and go and write somewhere else in other threads or forums. Jeez!

If you people met at say Ojai or Brockwood, would you speak to oneanother the way you do on here?

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#60 2012-05-17 07:56:32

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Re: An insight into the thinker and thought...

pearl wrote:

stupid, heartless bitch!   (...) cannot control your foul mouth.

Seek help. Honest. Not being flippant here. You *do need* professional help

Good luck,

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#61 2012-05-17 07:58:04

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Re: An insight into the thinker and thought...

Roots wrote:

If you people met at say Ojai or Brockwood, would you speak to oneanother the way you do on here?

Depends if children are present.

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#62 2012-05-17 07:59:10

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Re: An insight into the thinker and thought...

Well roots, I've given this dumb bitch many a chance to speak up but she hides behinds others and often spouts strange rubbish.  It's like that right from the start.  She has no courtesy and thinks this internet forum is her back yard, just another frustrated old lady seeking to entertain herself by putting down others.  Anyways, I'm done trying to communicate with such foul mouthed bitches.  Take care roots.

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#63 2012-05-17 08:00:50

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Re: An insight into the thinker and thought...

Eden wrote:

Roots wrote:

If you people met at say Ojai or Brockwood, would you speak to oneanother the way you do on here?

Depends if children are present.

Well, I can't beelive this lady has children!

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#64 2012-05-17 08:07:50

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Re: An insight into the thinker and thought...

pearl wrote:

Well roots, I've given this dumb bitch many a chance to speak up but she hides behinds others and often spouts strange rubbish.  It's like that right from the start.  She has no courtesy and thinks this internet forum is her back yard, just another frustrated old lady seeking to entertain herself by putting down others.  Anyways, I'm done trying to communicate with such foul mouthed bitches.  Take care roots.

This is so funny pearl. I'm in a public library but still grinning all over my face  . . . .

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#65 2012-05-17 08:09:43

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Re: An insight into the thinker and thought...

pearl wrote:

Well, I can't beelive this lady has children!

Strange...that's what they said about her momma too.

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#66 2012-05-17 08:12:08

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Re: An insight into the thinker and thought...

Roots wrote:

pearl wrote:

Well roots, I've given this dumb bitch many a chance to speak up but she hides behinds others and often spouts strange rubbish.  It's like that right from the start.  She has no courtesy and thinks this internet forum is her back yard, just another frustrated old lady seeking to entertain herself by putting down others.  Anyways, I'm done trying to communicate with such foul mouthed bitches.  Take care roots.

This is so funny pearl. I'm in a public library but still grinning all over my face  . . . .

Good that yuo are, Roots.  I know you have a soft spot for this poor lady and that's ok, but she's obviously highly insecured around pearl and wastes no time to spew her resentful, hostile, sarcastic comments at get go.  Poor thing.

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#67 2012-05-17 08:15:07

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Re: An insight into the thinker and thought...

pearl wrote:

Eden wrote:

Roots wrote:

If you people met at say Ojai or Brockwood, would you speak to oneanother the way you do on here?

Depends if children are present.

Well, I can't beelive this lady has children!

But they didn't think that mother mary was likely to have any either  . . . .

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#68 2012-05-17 08:22:30

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Re: An insight into the thinker and thought...

Roots wrote:

pearl wrote:

Eden wrote:


Depends if children are present.

Well, I can't beelive this lady has children!

But they didn't think that mother mary was likely to have any either  . . . .

Mother Mary was no virgin though, and I assume a wonderful, nurturing, compassionate mother although it is not much talked about.  Well, just my 'feeling'.

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#69 2012-05-17 11:22:09

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Re: An insight into the thinker and thought...

Eden wrote:

I do realize that sounded a bit nuts, but what I meant to convey is that they are unsustainable in the long run...I wasn't meaning in the next hundred years or so.  What makes them unsustainable is the simple fact that enlightened humans simply wont want to mate with religious nuts.

Now this may sound even crazier, but it wont be long before enlightened humans are transmuting the last remnants of the old civilization into the new....in fact the transmutation process has already begun, though it is still in its infancy.

Ha, that's a great response, but CB has a good point about the fast spreading religions which I kinda agree, but then you have a point as well.  Fascinating line of conversation, exchange, must say!  :-)

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#70 2012-05-17 11:23:46

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Re: An insight into the thinker and thought...

Laughing my brains off, now... Great one that RJ.  You're a funny, cool dude.

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#71 2012-05-17 11:25:37

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Re: An insight into the thinker and thought...

Eden wrote:

natura wrote:

I told you, I'm currently not reading your messages. You may ignore the mines in return.

See you later.

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Aww, Eden, give natura a break, he sure is a sweet heart. :-)

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#72 2012-05-17 12:10:05

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Re: An insight into the thinker and thought...

pearl wrote:

Hi,  it just struck anew and with great clarity talking to one of the members here, that the division between the thinker and the thought is illusory.  The thinker thinking himself to be separate from thought is the cause of all confusion, division.  But the fact, is the division doesn't exist, meaning false, and the thinker IS thought.  How do ya see?  Please feel free to share.  Will talk in leisure.

hi pearl. for me i made me clear, that every thought has in its complexicity an installed thinker in it. it is its structure, it is its construction. and the construction is so complex, that the same thought has a part, which is responsible for the illusion, that in this the thinker is not integrated.

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#73 2012-05-17 13:30:22

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Re: An insight into the thinker and thought...

natura wrote:

CB wrote:

Ok, thanks for the clarification. I do just "hope" that you are right, obviously you are seeing something then that I am not. Unless of course it is just a belief, but only you could judge that...

CB, a question to you if you don’t mind.

What else but belief could be any projection into future?

Maybe you would say clairvoyance?
Do you believe in clairvoyance?
If you ask me that, I would say, no, I don’t believe in clairvoyance. Many years ago I studied occultism and had huge experience – no need to believe or not, I just know how it works.

So anyway, try my question and try to reconsider your message, would you?

Well, yes Natura, I put that reply mostly sincerely, but also with maybe just a 10% touch of sarcasm...on the face of it Eden's proposition that enlightened beings will reproduce themselves enough over the next hundreds or thousands of years and that thought systems will end all by themselves and a "new age" will be created (my words, not his, I may be misreading), sounds about as fantastical as the old book of Revelation, and seems to be grounded in rather outdated theories of biology.

But you know, who am I to judge that? That's his "thing..." I can only just say that I hope he is right, but can't do anything with it.

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#74 2012-05-17 18:31:54

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Re: An insight into the thinker and thought...

CB wrote:

natura wrote:

CB wrote:

Ok, thanks for the clarification. I do just "hope" that you are right, obviously you are seeing something then that I am not. Unless of course it is just a belief, but only you could judge that...

CB, a question to you if you don’t mind.

What else but belief could be any projection into future?

Maybe you would say clairvoyance?
Do you believe in clairvoyance?
If you ask me that, I would say, no, I don’t believe in clairvoyance. Many years ago I studied occultism and had huge experience – no need to believe or not, I just know how it works.

So anyway, try my question and try to reconsider your message, would you?

Well, yes Natura, I put that reply mostly sincerely, but also with maybe just a 10% touch of sarcasm...on the face of it Eden's proposition that enlightened beings will reproduce themselves enough over the next hundreds or thousands of years and that thought systems will end all by themselves and a "new age" will be created (my words, not his, I may be misreading), sounds about as fantastical as the old book of Revelation, and seems to be grounded in rather outdated theories of biology.

But you know, who am I to judge that? That's his "thing..." I can only just say that I hope he is right, but can't do anything with it.

Frankly, CB, I was trying to redirect you from ‘judgment’ and ‘hope’ to ‘understanding’.

My point is that using that phenomenon understanding instead, we can win enormous potential still in human-being-state.


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#75 2012-05-17 20:44:44

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Re: An insight into the thinker and thought...

natura wrote:

CB wrote:

natura wrote:


CB, a question to you if you don’t mind.

What else but belief could be any projection into future?

Maybe you would say clairvoyance?
Do you believe in clairvoyance?
If you ask me that, I would say, no, I don’t believe in clairvoyance. Many years ago I studied occultism and had huge experience – no need to believe or not, I just know how it works.

So anyway, try my question and try to reconsider your message, would you?

Well, yes Natura, I put that reply mostly sincerely, but also with maybe just a 10% touch of sarcasm...on the face of it Eden's proposition that enlightened beings will reproduce themselves enough over the next hundreds or thousands of years and that thought systems will end all by themselves and a "new age" will be created (my words, not his, I may be misreading), sounds about as fantastical as the old book of Revelation, and seems to be grounded in rather outdated theories of biology.

But you know, who am I to judge that? That's his "thing..." I can only just say that I hope he is right, but can't do anything with it.

Frankly, CB, I was trying to redirect you from ‘judgment’ and ‘hope’ to ‘understanding’.

My point is that using that phenomenon understanding instead, we can win enormous potential still in human-being-state.

Not quite following what you are trying to say here, Natura, especially with that last sentence... 'Understanding' as you are using it (I think?) would require those involved to really authentically listen to and try to understand each other, but I just don't feel that's the case here.

I'm not quite sure what there is to understand about it. I put the word "hope," in quotes at first because it is being used loosely, kinda like, "well then, wishing you all the best."  Not as in "oh, you're my only hope!!" :-)

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