KFA - Krishnamurti Foundation of America

Our earth is turning into a polluted desert but if you deny it? If you do not listen to the really accurate scientists, with no propaganda to defend ?  If you do not see and feel the effects of dirty air? If you do not understand chemical pollution? If you do not feel the warmer air, and global warming yourselves? If you do not care that beautiful species are being slaughtered? If you  deny mankind's excesses, greed., and dependence on oil  is  rapidly adding to melting the poles and animal extinction, and deforestation, and leading political leaders to choose up sides in another war, and develop a military industrial society themselves, with no freedom, or rights for citizens? If you do not see them  choosing up sides in yet another war ?  If you say or posit  everything is beautiful, and we are in opulent times with prosperity for all? Maybe you are  not seeing what is externally, not seeing the cause as ourselves in denial, and opposition, and see the dire need on earth is to educate ourselves, not waste energy stultifying ourselves, fighting over opinions,   over ideas that deny science and facts? Do our  ideals, opinions  help us all escape more, from what is, as well as ourselves if we do ? Is the structured personality, fear assembles,  that important to most of us or do we want to learn about what is and face it even if it means facing ourselves ?   :-)

A vast array of pharmaceuticals — including antibiotics, anti-convulsants, mood stabilizers and sex hormones — have been found in the drinking water supplies of at least 41 million Americans, an Associated Press investigation shows.

Life will continue on this planet, even after humans have become extinct or mutated into something else. Of course the sun will eventually go supernova and vaporize the whole thing, whatever is living on it then.

Yes, why not. We can make it a pretty good place for a little while. Yet it is not that important either for it all dies.

Nice hat Ken . Is it new ? :-)

night wrote:

Life will continue on this planet, even after humans have become extinct or mutated into something else. Of course the sun will eventually go supernova and vaporize the whole thing, whatever is living on it then.

You sure about that, night? Fact is, we don't know.

Eden Being aggressive, violent, and arrogant, intolerant,  is not really being insightful or  negation at all. :-)

everyone wrote:

Beans respectfully, not totally disagreeing,  we can try to deny facts, and call facts part of negative thinking instead of positive thinking? That  only means we have an uninformed mind, or narrower range of technical knowledge than a real scientist . To really find out what a human being can know, and what they cannot know, we do have to be an inquirer, an explorer, a detective, and somewhat of a well rounded scientist for ourselves and learn how to compile facts, and listen, and discern between fact, and fiction, and superstition for ourselves . :-)

Hi Everything.

We hear that corporations are buying up land all over the world and replacing naturally abundant ecosystems with monocultures of crops. No one's denying it. Do we know that it will continue? Do we know that it will turn into a polluted desert? I know people with little plots of land who are composting, growing veggies, and planting native shrubs and trees where lawn was. Those little patches are not turning into polluted deserts. Nobody knows the future. For all we know, there may be a domino effect of change that renders those palm-oil producing plants undesirable and nature will take over. Anything's possible.

So we don't know, and can return to looking at ourselves.

beans wrote:

Fiesty - wonder why...

The term "positive thinking" may be offensive, but in reality that is what it is when one puts a positive spin on what is. ...by imagining that everything is love, etc

I have not imagined anything. I consitently interchange the word "love" with many other words that are neither positive or negative.  "life" "the universe" "god" "all-that-is" etc. 

The fact is, life is one seamless whole.  It is you who imagines it to be otherwise. It is your brain that imagines divisions where there are none.

Eden wrote:

beans wrote:

Fiesty - wonder why...

The term "positive thinking" may be offensive, but in reality that is what it is when one puts a positive spin on what is. ...by imagining that everything is love, etc

I have not imagined anything. I consitently interchange the word "love" with many other words that are neither positive or negative.  "life" "the universe" "god" "all-that-is" etc. 

The fact is, life is one seamless whole.  It is you who imagines it to be otherwise. It is your brain that imagines divisions where there are none.

Yes, you have expanded the use of the word "love" to mean everthing, even child abuse, for example. This is obviously not accurate but based on a common, comfortable theory, which examined, will fall away.

everyone wrote:

A baby born in America, or a new citizens naturalized child,  already owes over three hundred thousand dollars before they breathe the polluted air. Air their tiny lungs have not been prepared for . Ask any doctor worth his salt why so many children are getting cancer, and lung diseases, and dying. It is not from natural causes, or being born in the promised land its from food additives,  chemicals, corporations not caring about nature, or life,   and all the excessive pollution provide. Its our dependence, on drugs that do not cure, coal, Gas,  and oil, as our only option or viable energy source, and our wrongful trust in mega corporations, greed, the pursuit of power,  and lawyers who become politicians after learning, and practicing  the art of deceit  . :-)

The biggest polluter in all of America is the Kilauea Volcano on the Big Island. It puts out as much pollution everyday as the 30 biggest factories in America combined.  Dirty evil volcano. Shame on mother earth!  Perhaps Dano the superhero of goodness can stick some lava up his ass and help keep the air clean for all those living close by?

If any one is stupid enough to live downwind from Kilauea, they deserve to get stingy eyes and lung cancer don't ya think?  It's call the thinning of the herd. The stupid die, and the intelligent live on. And guess what happens then.....the intelligent reproduce.  Really....I know that is hard to believe, but see if you can muster up the brain cells to compute that fact.  Oh and by the way.....this has been going on for billions of years.

eden wrote:

If any one is stupid enough to live downwind from Kilauea, they deserve to get stingy eyes and lung cancer don't ya think?

"Deserve" sounds kinda judgmental - is it?

eden wrote:

The stupid die, and the intelligent live on. It's call the thinning of the herd.

"The fact is, life is one seamless whole.  It is you who imagines it to be otherwise. It is your brain that imagines divisions where there are none."- Eden

Last edited by beans (2012-05-23 04:42:48)