KFA - Krishnamurti Foundation of America

bruce sean wrote:

What is important in all this is to fully understand thought, to have a mind that is still, peaceful-which is the essence of a 'warless' mind.
  So the war in one's mind is the source of any war out there.

A mind that is still doesn't spread bullshit like "humans are in charge of the planet".  No garbage like that eminates from a still and clear mind.  It is beliefs like that which lead to war.  You are the cause of nuclear war bruce, with all your bullshit beliefs.  Can you face that fact or not?

Eden wrote:

bruce sean wrote:

What is important in all this is to fully understand thought, to have a mind that is still, peaceful-which is the essence of a 'warless' mind.
  So the war in one's mind is the source of any war out there.

A mind that is still doesn't spread bullshit like "humans are in charge of the planet".  No garbage like that eminates from a still and clear mind.  It is beliefs like that which lead to war.  You are the cause of nuclear war bruce, with all your bullshit beliefs.  Can you face that fact or not?

I don't think a still mind can make that statement. Perhaps you confuse a still mind with the idea of having a still mind, which you may have gotten used to: it's so easy to confuse the two.

bruce sean wrote:

Oh, I cannot forget that: I'm reminded of it every time I go to bed, every time I wake up, and every time I wear something on my head!!!

  To no.50.

yes. the intellectual "forget" or "not forget" does not change anything to the fact.

of course, in the ending of the material is the other, thats transformation. the ending of accumulation is transformation, which is the beginning

A beginning which never ends. And which doesn't get old either. To#57.

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Eden wrote:

bruce sean wrote:

Eden wrote:

A mind that is still doesn't spread bullshit like "humans are in charge of the planet".  No garbage like that eminates from a still and clear mind.  It is beliefs like that which lead to war.  You are the cause of nuclear war bruce, with all your bullshit beliefs.  Can you face that fact or not?

I don't think a still mind can make that statement.

It just did. Only a mind that has been bathed in a certain amount of stillness could ever be free of beliefs, obviously.  So again, you think wrong.

No, a still mind doesn't make insulting remarks, irrespective of how they are taken-in themselves, insulting remarks indicate a lack of stillness.

Eden wrote:

bruce sean wrote:

awareness wrote:

the natural state can only come into being, when the artificial state ends. this ending is the natural state, the state of understanding. yes, the source of this energy is something absolute other from the energy in the state of not understanding.

You say ending, but even the ending has ended! There is only a beginning now. Nothing to end, only to begin, begin again, and again, and again, but anew, each time.

You "begin" with the same beliefs swirling in your head every time...which is just the old obviously.  Nothing new whatsoever.  Same limitations.

The necessary beliefs, like the train arriving at a certain hour, yes. But no beliefs of the other kind.

bruce sean wrote:

Eden wrote:

bruce sean wrote:

I don't think a still mind can make that statement.

It just did. Only a mind that has been bathed in a certain amount of stillness could ever be free of beliefs, obviously.  So again, you think wrong.

No, a still mind doesn't make insulting remarks, irrespective of how they are taken-in themselves, insulting remarks indicate a lack of stillness.

Not always. And it wasn't an insult, it was a descriptive fact.

bruce sean wrote:

Eden wrote:

The movements of your organism is limited by your beliefs...that is a simple fact...kindergarten stuff.

Of course, except there are none, in the psychological field.

I just pointed out a huge one of yours...."humans are in charge of the planet". That has so many layers of psychological crap and fragmentation that I would barely know where to begin to clean up that pile of non-sense.

It indicates a lack of care, regardless of the audience...

bruce sean wrote:

Eden wrote:

bruce sean wrote:

Of course, except there are none, in the psychological field.

I just pointed out a huge one of yours...."humans are in charge of the planet". That has so many layers of psychological crap and fragmentation that I would barely know where to begin to clean up that pile of non-sense.

No, you are mixing things up: when there is no thinker there are no beliefs.

Of course....yet the body known here as "bruce sean" is ruled by beliefs.  That is the fact.

There is no thinker. That is the only important thing. I'm no expert in ecosystems, bio-energy, molecular chemistry, biology, the ozone layer or what not.

  I only know the ins and the outs of the psychological field, clear as the daylight.

Eden wrote:

The body known as Eden doesn't believe that "humans are in charge of the planet" nor does he believe anything else.   

As for this idea of "the thinker"...again that is the mind creating a pseudo entity where there is none.

It's one thing to understand that the thinker is just an idea intellectually, and quite another to talk about this idea, yet have a thought process which no longer operates from the division between a thinker and its thought.
  Such a brain operates entirely differently, physically.