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#301 2012-05-14 03:14:25

awareness
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Registered: 2011-09-03
Posts: 4038

Re: Feelings

RJ wrote:

I mentioned Bruce because I thought you might still be following him and he really really wants a follower which would really really make things irrevocably worse.

no I think that this world view (society is in disorder, society is psychotic etc.) is another form of self-deception and further grounds for the ego to perpetuate its sense of separation and self-righteousness.

of course there is sickness everywhere you look, decay, disease death
there is also abundant vitality, health, creativity and life

you cannot have one without the other.



more to the point, many people feel that they must sacrifice their sanity to become free of the diabolical tyranny of their own minds. This is categorically not the way.

Our relationships with the people we are closest to are our truest guides in this regard.

look, sir. i worked long as a physician. i know, how one makes a diagnosis according psychosis. we know, whats the function of the most physicians today. the want the mass of people repair to go back functioning in this society. thats the work of a psychiatrist. but the society makes him ill, better because he IS the society, which is ill, he would be thrown back to this and nothing changed, if he does not change.  i am amused, if you say i follow bruce. there is nothing to follow, we are talking as friends about the facts, and there is objectivity in, so it seems for you hat one follow another. but your words show me, that there is only 90 percent understanding. you have to clear up, that there is not a fix state, the transformation is constant, the input is transformed moment by moment, that , which was accumulated, conditioned, suffer, is ending as a matter, and in this there is something other, which is called compassion, which is the liberation of energie caught in this accumulation, that is the output, and that is constant. so you have to understand for yourself, otherwise this compassion would produce its own centre, in which is the friction, the resistance..

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#302 2012-05-14 03:57:51

RJ
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From: New Zealand
Registered: 2011-01-29
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Re: Feelings

goodonyamate

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#303 2012-05-14 16:52:56

bruce sean
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From: Los Angeles
Registered: 2009-08-13
Posts: 12155

Re: Feelings

RJ wrote:

I mentioned Bruce because I thought you might still be following him and he really really wants a follower ...

You've blundered again. What else can you do, in darkness?

  Truth CANNOT be followed, dear old man. Following another or following truth are both useless.
  You are yet to listen to another, other than through the preconceived images already formed in the damaged brain. I say this with compassion.

  Never in my life do I want anybody ever to follow anything or anybody. Only an image can be followed, truth cannot be, because it's not an image: if it were, it could be possible, but since it's not, it's impossible.

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#304 2012-05-14 16:55:06

bruce sean
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From: Los Angeles
Registered: 2009-08-13
Posts: 12155

Re: Feelings

awareness wrote:

RJ wrote:

I mentioned Bruce because I thought you might still be following him and he really really wants a follower which would really really make things irrevocably worse.

no I think that this world view (society is in disorder, society is psychotic etc.) is another form of self-deception and further grounds for the ego to perpetuate its sense of separation and self-righteousness.

of course there is sickness everywhere you look, decay, disease death
there is also abundant vitality, health, creativity and life

you cannot have one without the other.



more to the point, many people feel that they must sacrifice their sanity to become free of the diabolical tyranny of their own minds. This is categorically not the way.

Our relationships with the people we are closest to are our truest guides in this regard.

look, sir. i worked long as a physician. i know, how one makes a diagnosis according psychosis. we know, whats the function of the most physicians today. the want the mass of people repair to go back functioning in this society. thats the work of a psychiatrist. but the society makes him ill, better because he IS the society, which is ill, he would be thrown back to this and nothing changed, if he does not change.  i am amused, if you say i follow bruce. there is nothing to follow, we are talking as friends about the facts, and there is objectivity in, so it seems for you hat one follow another. but your words show me, that there is only 90 percent understanding. you have to clear up, that there is not a fix state, the transformation is constant, the input is transformed moment by moment, that , which was accumulated, conditioned, suffer, is ending as a matter, and in this there is something other, which is called compassion, which is the liberation of energie caught in this accumulation, that is the output, and that is constant. so you have to understand for yourself, otherwise this compassion would produce its own centre, in which is the friction, the resistance..

It seems useless, awareness, at this point-he cannot listen. Which doesn't mean you cannot give it a try. Maybe he cannot listen to some people which he profoundly dislikes, maybe he'll listen to you...

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