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#176 2012-05-12 01:51:33
- bruce sean
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Re: The secret to heaven.
That seems very interesting to me. Where did you get that material from?
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#177 2012-05-12 01:54:01
- bruce sean
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Re: The secret to heaven.
RJ wrote:
bruce sean wrote:
It is possible, but only if one's eyes don't move during the day, otherwise they will move at night, too.
you're a wee bit psychotic Bruce
What do you mean by psychotic? Today I've heard a talk show over the readio, and they were talking about a cat killer, who also had sex with them, and they called him psychotic. And I'm like, hmm, maybe that's me, at least according to RJ, but I don't quite know what it really means, strictly speaking.
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#178 2012-05-12 01:55:51
- Eden
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Re: The secret to heaven.
bruce sean wrote:
That seems very interesting to me. Where did you get that material from?
The answer to that question is guarded by 9 Hunter ninja assassins. Also known as the "Hunter-nin"
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#179 2012-05-12 02:01:17
- bruce sean
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Re: The secret to heaven.
Ah well, too bad. The alignment thing came to me like an insight, which probably is necessary anyways, even if one reads more about it-it still needs an insight.
Insight is here already so it's not a problem. I was just being curious.
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#180 2012-05-12 02:05:05
- Eden
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Re: The secret to heaven.
bruce sean wrote:
Ah well, too bad. The alignment thing came to me like an insight, which probably is necessary anyways, even if one reads more about it-it still needs an insight.
Insight is here already so it's not a problem. I was just being curious.
curiosity is good, except when it gets you killed by ninjas.
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#181 2012-05-12 02:09:09
- bruce sean
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Re: The secret to heaven.
Not that curious as to risk my life over something which is already here.
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#182 2012-05-12 02:33:19
- bruce sean
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Re: The secret to heaven.
CB wrote:
I don't see really see a connection yet... It seems that thought (as words in the head) can move when the eyes are still, and vice-versa, that the eyes can move when thought (as words) are not. So you are talking of thought that is deeper than the play of language right?
It also seems that the eyes are constantly moving, ever so slightly. Can only be kept still for couple seconds. Watching the eye movement, it is an interesting approach to "self-awareness," as opposed to following the play of words in the head. I see how it could reflect the "I" movement or the self/thinker/controller, but then any movement of the body could reflect that, right? And thought is "deeper" than the self...?
Haven't people been trying things like this for millenia?
When the eyes are not moving, thinking is not. When thinking is not, the eyes are not moving. This is especially true with one's eyes closed. With them open, a slight, very slight movement is necessary for perception reasons. But a big chunk which moves the eyes is thought: without it, the eyes are, more or less, still. This is something, in and of itself.
WHEN THE EYES ARE SHIFTING FROM ONE SIDE TO ANOTHER, SO DOES THOUGHT. When this shifting stops, thought stops, too, and there is stillness.
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#183 2012-05-12 03:13:21
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Re: The secret to heaven.
"hey God,
this rabbit needs dissection
it froze up in the light
oh well"
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#184 2012-05-12 03:15:00
- bruce sean
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Re: The secret to heaven.
Your eyes are still moving, so stillness is not.
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#185 2012-05-12 03:20:49
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Re: The secret to heaven.
not moving your stillness is eyes are still so
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#186 2012-05-12 03:22:09
- bruce sean
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Re: The secret to heaven.
Having fun is fine with me.
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