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#101 2012-04-03 18:33:57

snguyen
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Re: body and state identification

joe wrote:

right, it is always there but gets muddled if sought after or clung to, right?

When you seek after something, there is only pain. But when the pain is yourself you look at it. But like you work the land and if you keep working at the land the 'right' way, later fruits come back chasing you.

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#102 2012-04-03 18:46:00

beans
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Re: body and state identification

tree wrote:

tree wrote:

http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9 … DlVUDz7aWq

what is your teaching beanji ?

beans wrote:

Who's asking - the dude who needs some fancy duds, or not?

tree wrote:

'what is' is asking

beans wrote:

Your 'what is' includes your ass. Is your ass asking?

beans wrote:

LOL - too good to resist! :-)

tree wrote:

my moon is your bliss

tree wrote:

(ah, the wonder of it all..)

just kiss it

...goodbye.

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#103 2012-04-03 18:50:41

tree
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Re: body and state identification

beans wrote:

tree wrote:

tree wrote:

http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9 … DlVUDz7aWq

what is your teaching beanji ?

beans wrote:

Who's asking - the dude who needs some fancy duds, or not?

tree wrote:

'what is' is asking

beans wrote:

Your 'what is' includes your ass. Is your ass asking?

beans wrote:

LOL - too good to resist! :-)

tree wrote:

my moon is your bliss

tree wrote:

(ah, the wonder of it all..)

just kiss it

...goodbye.

...fare well

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#104 2012-04-03 19:02:51

beans
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Re: body and state identification

wilbro99 wrote:

beans, this is what the stump stumps for:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hermeticism

Hmmmm, guess whose creed this is:Do What Thou Wilt.

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#105 2012-04-03 19:05:30

beans
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Re: body and state identification

snguyen wrote:

beans wrote:

Si, it's interesting that you and I come from two vastly different sets of conditioning. I'm not sure I understand this gate business, but when I perceive bliss or something amazingly beautiful or there is emptiness, I just don't feel the need to stay. Not sure this is explained well at all....am going away to look into it.

I don't think you and I have different basic conditioning. But if you keep collecting knowledge then that knowledge acts in you. You see something new for a moment from that knowledge but soon it becomes memory. Is that not your new conditioning?

Without knowledge, accumulation of memory which dulls the mind, I find that the beauty, the amazing of life is always there, not exhaustible. Sometimes I fall back due to headache for a day or two, but with learning the regain of beauty is always there.

Who is collecting knowledge?

"...but with learning the regain of beauty is always there." Who is regaining?

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#106 2012-04-03 19:07:12

tree
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Re: body and state identification

beans wrote:

wilbro99 wrote:

beans, this is what the stump stumps for:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hermeticism

Hmmmm, guess whose creed this is:Do What Thou Wilt.

more staw men

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#107 2012-04-03 19:12:26

beans
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Re: body and state identification

As far as I can tell, he was an actual person...how bout you?

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#108 2012-04-03 19:17:50

tree
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Re: body and state identification

beans wrote:

As far as I can tell, he was an actual person...how bout you?

i am included in your 'what's it'

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#109 2012-04-03 19:19:18

beans
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Re: body and state identification

tree wrote:

beans wrote:

As far as I can tell, he was an actual person...how bout you?

i am included in your 'what's it'

What of you is included in my 'what is'?

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#110 2012-04-03 19:20:05

tree
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Re: body and state identification

beans wrote:

tree wrote:

beans wrote:

As far as I can tell, he was an actual person...how bout you?

i am included in your 'what's it'

What of you is included in my 'what is'?

this

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#111 2012-04-03 19:20:35

beans
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Re: body and state identification

tree wrote:

beans wrote:

tree wrote:


i am included in your 'what's it'

What of you is included in my 'what is'?

this

non-answer, see you later.

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#112 2012-04-03 19:26:38

tree
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Re: body and state identification

beans wrote:

tree wrote:

beans wrote:


What of you is included in my 'what is'?

this

non-answer, see you later.

seeing is now

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#113 2012-04-03 19:57:06

joe
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Re: body and state identification

snguyen wrote:

joe wrote:

right, it is always there but gets muddled if sought after or clung to, right?

When you seek after something, there is only pain. But when the pain is yourself you look at it. But like you work the land and if you keep working at the land the 'right' way, later fruits come back chasing you.

...doesn't that kind of talk set up or reflect a seeking mind?

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#114 2012-04-03 21:35:25

beans
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Re: body and state identification

tree wrote:

seeing is now

Pretty slick...(?) Mixing up some magic over there, tree?

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#115 2012-04-03 21:39:51

tree
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Re: body and state identification

beans wrote:

tree wrote:

seeing is now

Pretty slick...(?) Mixing up some magic over there, tree?

now is here

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#116 2012-04-03 21:47:37

beans
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Re: body and state identification

tree wrote:

now is here

Yes, thank you.

What is the word I'm thinking of, tree, that means the psychological release that is a catharsis? I have been trying to remember it...

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#117 2012-04-03 21:51:28

wilbro99
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Re: body and state identification

If now is here, let's invite then so now and then would both be here...

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#118 2012-04-03 21:53:02

tree
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Re: body and state identification

beans wrote:

tree wrote:

now is here

Yes, thank you.

What is the word I'm thinking of, tree, that means the psychological release that is a catharsis? I have been trying to remember it...

beans!

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#119 2012-04-03 21:54:31

beans
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Re: body and state identification

tree wrote:

beans!

garbanzo!

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#120 2012-04-03 21:56:31

tree
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Re: body and state identification

wilbro99 wrote:

If now is here, let's invite then so now and then would both be here...

if...?

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#121 2012-04-03 22:08:05

beans
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Re: body and state identification

Quite the conversationalist tonight!

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#122 2012-04-03 22:11:40

tree
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Re: body and state identification

start from division and all is divided

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#123 2012-04-03 22:12:56

beans
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Re: body and state identification

tree wrote:

start from division and all is divided

Who is dividing and how?

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#124 2012-04-03 22:15:57

tree
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Re: body and state identification

beans wrote:

tree wrote:

start from division and all is divided

Who is dividing and how?

does it matter?

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#125 2012-04-03 22:17:36

beans
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Registered: 2010-01-28
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Re: body and state identification

tree wrote:

does it matter?

yes.

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