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#1 2012-01-16 14:09:24

Tom
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What is patience?

We are putting out a very simple question. It comes as a consequence of our last thread on the roots of enquiry, but there is no need to go back and revisit that thread in order to join in with this thread. It is a new topic, a fresh start, a clean slate. At the same time, no-one is forcing you at gun-point to come along and join in; no-one is insisting that you read and respond to this thread. If you have better things to do, do them. But if you are interested in a question like this, please join in.

Probably we all know what the dictionary says about patience, that it means the ability to wait, to tolerate delay without complaint; and also that it has its root in the Latin word 'patientia' which means 'suffering'.

Then also behind the dictionary definition is the actual state of a mind that is truly patient, a mind that doesn't resist suffering.

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#2 2012-01-16 14:15:29

awareness
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Re: What is patience?

innocence

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#3 2012-01-16 14:21:32

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Re: What is patience?

Patience doesn't know what impatience is.

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#4 2012-01-16 14:34:40

awareness
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Re: What is patience?

Magnetic wrote:

participating in the knowing of a delayed action.

hey, learning is in which there is patience:-)

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#5 2012-01-16 14:57:46

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Re: What is patience?

Magnetic wrote:

awareness wrote:

Magnetic wrote:

participating in the knowing of a delayed action.

hey, learning is in which there is patience:-)

i wish i learned that one, lost my patience often, trow things, break things, damn reality, why is not evident.....

ah, intelligence brings patience

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#6 2012-01-16 15:00:58

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Re: What is patience?

Patience, if you have not done, not taken the journey all along to think, test and act in your daily life on what has been said but only casually play with it and hope for something to happen, that is called laziness. The word patience in general does not fit at all in this serious and beautiful journey of life. It is a misunderstanding of direct action. It also brings in a gap between what I am now and what I shall be in future, and this gap I call it patience.

When you have done it all day long to the point there can’t be done further, you either rest in the evening or have a very deep sleep. This resting is necessary and very natural and it is not patience.

If patience is seen as a state of mind that does not resist suffering, it does not fit quite well as the word passion. Suffering as a patience implies a waiting. But suffering that knows of no gap in it is the burning passion. This burning passion is the merciless, timeless, non-divisive fact of what is and in being with the fact releases abundant energy. Otherwise, suffering is just a word.

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#7 2012-01-16 15:04:25

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Re: What is patience?

right, patience has no relationship to thought.

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#8 2012-01-16 15:08:22

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Re: What is patience?

Magnetic wrote:

awareness wrote:

Magnetic wrote:


i wish i learned that one, lost my patience often, trow things, break things, damn reality, why is not evident.....

ah, intelligence brings patience

would you say is inactive action without conflict? meaning intelligence is petience it-self.

yep, action in which is no time, which means ending of time:-)))

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#9 2012-01-16 15:11:25

awareness
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Re: What is patience?

silence;-)

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#10 2012-01-16 15:15:34

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Re: What is patience?

Magnetic wrote:

awareness wrote:

Magnetic wrote:


would you say is inactive action without conflict? meaning intelligence is petience it-self.

yep, action in which is no time, which means ending of time:-)))

you have drinked from the ocean of WISDOM, now swim fish swim......

swim IS fish:-)

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#11 2012-01-16 15:18:46

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Re: What is patience?

Magnetic wrote:

awareness wrote:

Magnetic wrote:


you have drinked from the ocean of WISDOM, now swim fish swim......

swim IS fish:-)

ah now you start pouring wisdom in my cup........

emptiness

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#12 2012-01-16 15:44:33

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Re: What is patience?

Magnetic wrote:

awareness wrote:

Magnetic wrote:


ah now you start pouring wisdom in my cup........

emptiness

what is that thing, which the more you take from, the bigger it gets?

thought

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#13 2012-01-16 15:47:11

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Re: What is patience?

Patience to recognize the distractions that are always lying in wait for me.

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#14 2012-01-16 15:50:29

awareness
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Re: What is patience?

ups...i am unmasked now...

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#15 2012-01-16 15:54:22

awareness
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Re: What is patience?

i am speechless now!!!

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#16 2012-01-16 16:12:51

hermann
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Re: What is patience?

Patience to allow my priorities to sort themselves out.

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#17 2012-01-16 16:21:32

hermann
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Re: What is patience?

Patience to resist the impulse to name things.

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#18 2012-01-16 16:49:02

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Re: What is patience?

Tom wrote:

We are putting out a very simple question. It comes as a consequence of our last thread on the roots of enquiry, but there is no need to go back and revisit that thread in order to join in with this thread. It is a new topic, a fresh start, a clean slate. At the same time, no-one is forcing you at gun-point to come along and join in; no-one is insisting that you read and respond to this thread. If you have better things to do, do them. But if you are interested in a question like this, please join in.

Probably we all know what the dictionary says about patience, that it means the ability to wait, to tolerate delay without complaint; and also that it has its root in the Latin word 'patientia' which means 'suffering'.

Then also behind the dictionary definition is the actual state of a mind that is truly patient, a mind that doesn't resist suffering.

Yay! Another fully loaded question to which Tom already has the answer. So fresh! Bursting with abstract freshness!

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#19 2012-01-16 16:51:37

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Re: What is patience?

A mind that doesn't resist suffering! Yes. That's it! By gosh that is so brilliant and fresh and precise.

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#20 2012-01-16 17:21:25

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Re: What is patience?

hermann wrote:

Patience to resist the impulse to name things.

To look without naming.

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#21 2012-01-16 17:50:04

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Re: What is patience?

Eden wrote:

A mind that doesn't resist suffering! Yes. That's it! By gosh that is so brilliant and fresh and precise.

Yes, A mind that doesn't resist suffering!

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#22 2012-01-16 18:23:28

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Re: What is patience?

patience is listening when you are busy, for example...it is its own reward, and it has nothing to do with time or a time gap.

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#23 2012-01-16 18:30:18

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Re: What is patience?

joe wrote:

patience is listening when you are busy, for example...it is its own reward, and it has nothing to do with time or a time gap.

It is a concept and we are ready to try to make sense of it, just because it is opened as a thread. Herd mentality. I can be with the energy of impatience too. No choice.

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#24 2012-01-16 18:37:44

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Re: What is patience?

snguyen wrote:

joe wrote:

patience is listening when you are busy, for example...it is its own reward, and it has nothing to do with time or a time gap.

It is a concept and we are ready to try to make sense of it, just because it is opened as a thread. Herd mentality. I can be with the energy of impatience too. No choice.

Gidday Snguyen
how goes the way?

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#25 2012-01-16 18:41:29

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Re: What is patience?

patience

1) tolerant and even-tempered perseverance

2) the capacity for calmly enduring pain, trying situations, etc

3) (chiefly Brit.) any of various card games for one player only, in which the cards may be laid out in various combinations as the player tries to use up the whole pack US equivalent: solitaire

4) (obsolete) permission; sufferance

• Etymology: via Old French from Latin patientia endurance, from patī to suffer

There are four definitions plus etymology in my dictionary.

So, are we close to truth and happiness now or do we need some more definitions and explanations, yet?


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