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Ekanta wrote:

bruce sean wrote:

Ekanta wrote:

Can be my friend, can bee
And I have no problem to assume that and to accept
This means to grow, no much mind, no play...I do accept my ego and my defensive me chanism...and still glad ypu can make me see that...
Thank you

Take long time, at least for me,I still with so much conflict and panic

But to grow still means the ego...What happens when the opposite happens? What happens when ALL growth comes to an end?

Take long time to me Bruce, is taking...still much conflict and panic from my side

Jayaraj wrote:

What are you talking about sir? We were talking about why a person would want to communicate using a pseudonym.

Sir, last week a person admitted to me that he operates 3 or 4 accounts in Kinfonet as westerners.Somebody who cannot stand K's name!!So it can be happening here too. This explains how some come up with unexplainable hostile comments sometimes.

You know sir there is a person here who didn't deny when I said he is awareness day before yesterday! Well he too says he is nobody but calls all sorts of names phoning me in drunken stupor!! So much for enlightenment! A drunk one!!

I joined this forum to mutually discuss sir.Not to disprove anybody or prove myself.

So important point

Ekanta wrote:

Jayaraj wrote:

What are you talking about sir? We were talking about why a person would want to communicate using a pseudonym.

Sir, last week a person admitted to me that he operates 3 or 4 accounts in Kinfonet as westerners.Somebody who cannot stand K's name!!So it can be happening here too. This explains how some come up with unexplainable hostile comments sometimes.

You know sir there is a person here who didn't deny when I said he is awareness day before yesterday! Well he too says he is nobody but calls all sorts of names phoning me in drunken stupor!! So much for enlightenment! A drunk one!!

I joined this forum to mutually discuss sir.Not to disprove anybody or prove myself.

So important point

important? for whom? for what? sorry, sir, you throw with words without any clue, what you said really

Ekanta wrote:

Ekanta wrote:

bruce sean wrote:

Take long time, at least for me,I still with so much conflict and panic

But to grow still means the ego...What happens when the opposite happens? What happens when ALL growth comes to an end?

Take long time to me Bruce, is taking...still much conflict and panic from my side

But that is exactly what I was saying: taking time, growth continues, you want to improve, get better-all this reinforces one's ego. How can all improvement come to an end?

awareness wrote:

bruce sean wrote:

Ekanta wrote:

Can be my friend, can bee
And I have no problem to assume that and to accept
This means to grow, no much mind, no play...I do accept my ego and my defensive me chanism...and still glad ypu can make me see that...
Thank you

But to grow still means the ego...What happens when the opposite happens? What happens when ALL growth comes to an end?

what do you mean by growth?

Obviously, I mean psychological growth-all our talk here, or most of it anyway, is psychological. You may say to me that it doesn't exist, but for that to be seen I must first stop growing and see what happens. Can one do that?

bruce sean wrote:

Ekanta wrote:

Ekanta wrote:

Take long time to me Bruce, is taking...still much conflict and panic from my side

But that is exactly what I was saying: taking time, growth continues, you want to improve, get better-all this reinforces one's ego. How can all improvement come to an end?

Ok

bruce sean wrote:

awareness wrote:

bruce sean wrote:

But to grow still means the ego...What happens when the opposite happens? What happens when ALL growth comes to an end?

what do you mean by growth?

Obviously, I mean psychological growth-all our talk here, or most of it anyway, is psychological. You may say to me that it doesn't exist, but for that to be seen I must first stop growing and see what happens. Can one do that?

one IS the growing, in the ending of the one is the ending of growing, in which is the "grower". "growing" without the "grower"?

awareness wrote:

bruce sean wrote:

awareness wrote:

what do you mean by growth?

Obviously, I mean psychological growth-all our talk here, or most of it anyway, is psychological. You may say to me that it doesn't exist, but for that to be seen I must first stop growing and see what happens. Can one do that?

one IS the growing, in the ending of the one is the ending of growing, in which is the "grower". "growing" without the "grower"?

So you're telling me that when the grower stops separating himself from the growth they both stop. Is that right? If that's what you're saying, I agree, of course. But it doesn't happen: the grower continues to believe in his existence, and so growth continues, which is of course a sham.

bruce sean wrote:

awareness wrote:

bruce sean wrote:

She's a woman, and a lovely one at that. Just so you know, awareness.

you had met her ? where?

Oh no, sorry, just here and a few e-mails, I didn't mean to 'correct' your impression.

Bruce yes, maybe effort less to grow is the kye
Or combine the two option
Lovely Bruce
Thanks

Ah, no! Not 'less growth'-that is more of the same. To end it completely-for the moment you don't see the beauty of it. Stay with it a little bit, please.
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Last edited by bruce sean (2012-05-05 17:57:11)

i dont mean "less growth". i mean growing without the grower, observing without the observer, learning without the learner....

Yeah, no, that comment was addressed to Ekanta, who mentioned the phrase 'less effort to grow'.

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Last edited by bruce sean (2012-05-05 18:00:50)

awareness wrote:

Ekanta wrote:

awareness wrote:

you had met her ? where?

Yes, we have met...very clear we have met.

perhaps as another id;-)

I am talking about Bruce