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Ok everybody, heads up!

Stumpy is about to give us a look-see at the root dance; the stumpy stomp!

what are you all worked up about?

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a wryfully willyfyed wonk:

To cut that cord of memory is to forget that which is being remembered, and, it is to find yourself grounded in your senses, sensually, as the one who senses the world you find yourself in.

That self-description had to crawl out of the defined self by placing itself in the definition.

If that placement is the same placement regardless of which reflection is in play, the subjective or the objective, then they are effectively one. As such, that placement is only the possibility of a duality.

When that possibility came to fruition, this creature acquired the faculty of will, and has been in a stew ever since.

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And that, my dear Pablo, is how one defines being laid back.

That suit is one I must don before I enter this kingdom so as to become the Court Jester. 

You know, Pablo mio, if I took this stuff seriously, I would be part of it...

And let me, pablo mio, make a fooool of all of us...


On how to transform continuity from a line in time to the ground in place.

Part I: Setting the table

Continuity is a line, where the points on that line always point to that line. There are an infinite number of points because there is always *another* point.

Let the point be the continuity, so that every point expresses the continuity that is the line. Call this point the differential. The differential is then the symbol that signifies that every part of a whole is that whole.

Let there be a whole that is strung out over time, and call that continuity a lifeline. Let that lifeline be the line we are going to transform.

The one who is this lifeline cannot distinguish the continuous continuous from each reflection in time finding the same point.

This inability allows us to insert a space between the reflections in time, and that because the time here is made continuous by the reflection itself.

wilbro99 wrote:

And let me, pablo mio, make a fooool of all of us...

No need to make a fool of me, Professor. My ridiculousness is abundantly evident.

On how to transform continuity from a line in time to the ground in place.

Part I: Setting the table

Continuity is a line, where the points on that line always point to that line. There are an infinite number of points because there is always *another* point.

Let the point be the continuity, so that every point expresses the continuity that is the line. Call this point the differential. The differential is then the symbol that signifies that every part of a whole is that whole.

Let there be a whole that is strung out over time, and call that continuity a lifeline. Let that lifeline be the line we are going to transform.

The one who is this lifeline cannot distinguish the continuous continuous from each reflection in time finding the same point.

This inability allows us to insert a space between the reflections in time, and that because the time here is made continuous by the reflection itself.

My (ridiculous) attempt to make sense of this on a rational or mathematical level ensues.

Infinity is not the identifying mark of a continuous set (e.g. the set of integers), nor can continuous sets be identified with lines (lines are 1-dimensional, how about n-dimensional continuous sets like curved surfaces in 3D, or even infinite-dimensional continuous sets).

Your "differential" evokes the idea of the "Dedekind Cut" which Dedekind famously used to define the set of real numbers. Imagine an infinitely long straight strand of spaghetti, that's the real number line. Then every real number can be defined as making a cut in the line, separating the line into two parts. The cut is the real number.

But The Professor goes on to say that every part of a whole is the whole. That is certainly not true in the present context. A cut is not isomorphically associated with the whole spaghetti strand. You could have a finite spaghetti strand just say one inch long and make exactly the same cut in it, yet the cut does not reveal the whole, since you would not be able to tell from the cut which strand of spaghetti it cut, the infinite one or the one inch one.

Finally, try as I may, I cannot fathom the GE (Grand Epiphany) you are revealing in your closing time metaphor.

And that is all this idiot has to say. (My most incisive comments are, as always, in the spaces between the words.)

L'chaim!

The Idiotic Rule: If I can only think about what I know, and I am telling you what I know, then you must know what I am talking about if you are to think what I am thinking.

The Idiotic Question: Are you thinking what I am thinking?

The Leading Question: What if we think we know the same thing and we factually do not; how would we ascertain whether or not that misunderstanding is in place?

The Decisive Question: Are you thinking what I am thinking?

wilbro99 wrote:

The Idiotic Rule: If I can only think about what I know, and I am telling you what I know, then you must know what I am talking about if you are to think what I am thinking.

The Idiotic Question: Are you thinking what I am thinking?

The Leading Question: What if we think we know the same thing and we factually do not; how would we ascertain whether or not that misunderstanding is in place?

The Decisive Question: Are you thinking what I am thinking?

How would we ascertain misunderstanding? I'm not sure I understand the question.
How can you not?

The idiotic question is poorly named, it's a good question.

If you communicate your thoughts skilfully, persuasively, entertainingly enough then yes, I will be thinking what you are thinking.

It's why all that grunting around the open fire a good few generations ago developed into words, and more words, and more words.

We wanted others to understand what we were feeling at least as much as we were curious to feel them the better (thinking, and misunderstanding, came along a close second)

So all attempts at communication are futile, including the post above?

And vice-versa. My favorite postings tend to be those that give me that glimpse into the personal.